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Radu89
Sun Jul 03 2011, 04:25PM

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Pentru cunoscatori . Stie cineva ce inseamna denumirea ''ESEU 1555'' pentru un caine de serviciu politist ? Denumirile sunt atribuite dupa fiecare domeniu in care acesta lucreaza ?
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Ghost_dog
Tue Jul 05 2011, 12:11AM
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In general nu au o denumire specifica , cred ca este numele cainelui cu nr matricol ce ai scris mai sus , nimic deosebit .
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Doi câini eroi din Buzău ies la pensie

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Cireta şi Gabaga, două căţele poliţiste din rasa ciobănesc german, au un palmares de invidiat. În aprilie, ele i-au condus pe poliţişti până la locul în care se ascundea Eugen Galeş, un bărbat cercetat pentru comiterea a două crime şi care a evadat de la judecătorie. Galeş reuşise să se ascundă şapte ani până să-i vină de hac cele două căţeluşe.

Patrupedele au împlinit de curând nouă ani, vârstă la care au fost trecute în rezervă, pentru că până şi câinii poliţişti au un prag de pensionare.

"Foarte grea este despărţirea ca de orice fiinţă care ţi-a fost aproape, ţi-a fost de ajutor. Sunt caini care încă au aptitudini foarte bune pentru pază şi apărare în casă, în curte", a declarat Iulian Costache, conducătorul câinilor poliţişti.

Poliţia Buzău va organiza o licitaţie pentru a le găsi stăpâni celor două patrupede speciale.

"ISJ Buzău organizează în vederea valorificării a doi câini politişti, licitaţie publică cu strigare, primul termen fiind stabilit pentru data de 14 iulie", a declarat Amalia Vlădescu, poliţia Buzău.

Dacă nu vor fi adjudecate, patrupedele Cireta şi Gabaga vor fi donate.
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Boribum
Sun Jul 10 2011, 04:45PM
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Prin forta împrejurarilor,am vazut azi câinii care vor defila pe 14 iulie împreuna cu noi. La întrebarea pusa unui capitan referitor la soarta câinilor dupa trecerea în rezerva (la 8 ani,aici) s-a uitat la mine capitanul ala de parca îl înjurasem de mama :câinii se nasc si mor militari.Beside,astia au si niste legi privitoare la materialele militare care interzic civililor sa intre în posesia unor astfel de "scule".

Sper sa încapa pe mâini bune,catelele alea doua si sa aiba cea mai buna viata posibila.
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ALM
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Boribum wrote ...

Prin forta împrejurarilor,am vazut azi câinii care vor defila pe 14 iulie împreuna cu noi. La întrebarea pusa unui capitan referitor la soarta câinilor dupa trecerea în rezerva (la 8 ani,aici) s-a uitat la mine capitanul ala de parca îl înjurasem de mama :câinii se nasc si mor militari ...

Pai si la noi e la fel! Singura diferenta este ca numai cainele (sau omul) stie ca a fost militar ...
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Boribum
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Va asigur ca astia iau lucrurile foarte în serios,si câine militar înseamna nascut-crescut-educat-dresat-folosit-pensionat-îngrijit-îngropat ca facând parte din arsenalul armatei. Ca orice militar,adica.
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ALM
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Va asigur ca am inteles perfect din mesajul anterior. La mesajul curent am o obiectie: Ca orice militar, adica, exclus in Romania!
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Ghost_dog
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Pai dupa cum am spus in Romania cam ce facem in Politie ,Jandarmerie , IGSU privind caini tine mai mult de imagine si mai putin de obtinerea rezultatelor . Majoritatea unitatilor nu au masini special modificate ptr transportul cainilor ( si de aici rezulta folosirea sporadica a cainilor in misiuni ). Conductori in mare parte nu au dorinta necesara sa faca antrenamente sau sa mearga la misiuni cu patrupedul din dotare ( ma refer la cei care au caini de patrulare) .
Pana cand vor fi lasate lucrurile sa mearga pe acest fagas , din pacate , vom pierde un ajutor care uneori poate fi decisiv in timpul efectuarii misiunilor sau patrularilor .

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Scuze daca s-a mai postat pe undeva sau daca am pus pe un topic gresit. Primit pe e-mail:

"When U.S. President Barack Obama went to Fort Campbell , Kentucky , last week
for a highly publicized, but very private meeting with the commando team
that killed Osama bin Laden, only one of the 81 members of the super-secret
SEAL DevGru unit was identified by name: Cairo , the war dog.
Cairo , like most canine members of the elite U.S. Navy SEALs, is a Belgian
Malinois. The Malinois breed is similar to German shepherds but smaller and
more compact, with an adult male weighing in the 30-kilo range.
LINK

(German shepherds are still used as war dogs by the American military but
the lighter, stubbier Malinois is considered better for the tandem
parachute jumping and rappelling operations often undertaken by SEAL teams.
Labrador retrievers are also favoured by various military organizations around the world
LINK
LINK

Like their human counterparts, the dog SEALs are highly trained, highly
skilled, highly motivated special ops experts, able to perform
extraordinary military missions by SEa, Air and Land (thus the acronym).
The dogs carry out a wide range of specialized duties for the military
teams to which they are attached: With a sense of smell 40 times greater
than a human’s, the dogs are trained to detect and identify both explosive
material and hostile or hiding humans.
The dogs are twice as fast as a fit human, so anyone trying to escape is
not likely to outrun Cairo or his buddies.
LINK

The dogs, equipped with video cameras, also enter certain danger zones
first, allowing their handlers to see what’s ahead before humans follow.
As I mentioned before, SEAL dogs are even trained parachutists, jumping
either in tandem with their handlers or solo, if the jump is into water.
Last year canine parachute instructor Mike Forsythe and his dog Cara set
the world record for highest man-dog parachute deployment, jumping from
more than 30,100 feet up — the altitude transoceanic passenger jets fly at.
Both Forsythe and Cara were wearing oxygen masks and skin protectors for
the jump.
Here’s a photo from that jump, taken by Andy Anderson for K9 Storm Inc.
(more about those folks shortly).

As well, the dogs are faithful, fearless and ferocious — incredibly
frightening and efficient attackers.
I have seen it reported repeatedly that the teeth of SEAL war dogs are
replaced with titanium implants that are stronger, sharper and
scare-your-pants-off intimidating, but a U.S. Military spokesman has
denied that charge, so I really don’t know (never having seen a canine SEAL
face-to-face). I do know that I’ve never seen a photo of a war dog with
anything even vaguely resembling a set of shiny metal chompers.
When the SEAL DevGru team (usually known by its old designation, Team 6)
hit bin Laden’s Pakistan compound on May 2, Cairo ’s feet would have been
four of the first on the ground.
And like the human SEALs, Cairo was wearing super-strong, flexible body
Armour and outfitted with high-tech equipment that included “doggles” —
specially designed and fitted dog googles with night-vision and infrared
capability that would even allow Cairo to see human heat forms through
concrete walls.
Now where on earth would anyone get that kind of incredibly niche hi-tech
doggie gear?
From Winnipeg , of all places.
Jim and Glori Slater’s Manitoba hi-tech mom-and-pop business, K9 Storm
Inc., has a deserved worldwide reputation for designing and manufacturing
probably the best body Armour available for police and military dogs.
Working dogs in 15 countries around the world are currently protected by
their K9 Storm body Armour.
LINK

Jim Slater was a canine handler on the Winnipeg Police Force when he
crafted a Kevlar protective jacket for his own dog, Olaf, in the mid-1990s.
Soon Slater was making body Armour for other cop dogs, then the Canadian
military and soon the world.
The standard K9 Storm vest also has a load-bearing harness system that
makes it ideal for tandem rappelling and parachuting.
LINK

And then there are the special hi-tech add-ons that made the K9 Storm
especially appealing to the U.S. Navy SEALs, who bought four of K9 Storm
Inc.’s top-end Intruder “canine tactical assault suits” last year for
$86,000. You can be sure Cairo was wearing one of those four suits when he
jumped into bin Laden’s lair.
Here’s an explanation of all the K9 Storm Intruder special features:
LINK

Just as the Navy SEALS and other elite special forces are the sharp point
of the American military machine, so too are their dogs at the top of a
canine military heirarchy.
In all, the U.S. military currently has about 2,800 active-duty dogs
deployed around the world, with roughly 600 now in Afghanistan and Iraq .
Here’s the link to a dandy photo essay about U.S. war dogs that just
appeared in the journal Foreign Policy.
Several of the photos I have included here are from Foreign Policy, as you
will see. Other photos are from K9 Storm Inc.
LINK
LINK

As for the ethics of sending dogs to war, that’s pretty much a moot point,
don’t you think? If it’s ethical to send humans into combat, then why not
dogs?
At least the U.S. now treats its war dogs as full members of the military.
At the end of the Vietnam War, the U.S. combat dogs there were designated
as “surplus military equipment” and left behind when American forces pulled
out."

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Ghost_dog
Tue Jul 12 2011, 10:44PM
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Cateva din link-urile puse de tine nu functioneaza dar in mare da ai dreptate caini ,in alte tari , sunt folositi la adevarata valoare noi nu stim/vrem sa ne trezim la realitate , in armata(romana) folosirea cainilor este 0 cu toate ca unitatile speciale din lume folosesc caini cu rezultate foarte bune .
Probabil ca trebuie ca totul sa inceapa de sus ptr ca perceptia sa se schimbe ..


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Mihais
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Nu ca vreau sa incep o polemica,dar in zisele alte armate,initiativele astea au pornit de jos.CEi de sus e adevarat ca au avut destula minte sa aprobe.Despre ai nostrii ca brazii ma abtin,ca as fi off-topic.

Intrebare.Cat dureaza pana sa aduci un caine la un nivel apropiat de ce este descris in articol?Presupun ca animalul are si aptitudini,caci daca nu are asta e.

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Ghost_dog
Wed Jul 13 2011, 12:04AM
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Pai hai sa iti explic despre ce este vorba acolo sus totul este in vise situatia este cunoscuta dar ptr ca nu deranjeaza si mai ales ca sunt altele acum care "arde" nu este de o importanta deosebita . E simplu sa se faca un control de genul , cati caini de serviciu avem ? 1000 ( o cifra relativa) ok ... Cate masini pentru transport ? Ce mancare primesc acesti caini ? Cine se ocupa de antrenamentul lor dupa ce au fost "specializati" ? Se face cu adevarat antrenamentul care se raporteaza ( 80 % nu ).
Un caine adevarat se face cam in 1-2 ani de munca . Munca incepe de cand este pui , se continua cu specializarea lui si apoi cu antrenamentele si misiunile specifice . Sunt prea multe exemple pe net ca sa mai dau si eu . Noi nu avem nevoie de exemple ci de fapte ...
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Ghost_dog wrote ...

Noi nu avem nevoie de exemple ci de fapte ...


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Apoi link-ul nu mere mon cher
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Mai sunt si alti caini, la fel de simpatici:

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