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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Blocada totala in Liban - Israelul a declarat razboi in Orientul MijlociuIsraelul a declarat ieri razboi Libanului. Dupa o zi de bombardamente israeliene si contraofensive ale Hezbollahului, CSONU si Liga Araba se implica in rezolvarea crizei. Rapirea a doi militari israelieni de catre membri ai gruparii siite Hezbollah a dus la escaldarea violentelor in Liban si Israel. Razboiul a fost declarat deschis ieri, dupa ce aviatia israeliana a lansat, in zorii zilei, un al doilea bombardament asupra Aeroportului international Rafik Hariri din Beirut. Israelul a inchis toate caile de acces inspre si dinspre Liban. Potrivit presei occidentale, cel putin 17 poduri au fost distruse in urma atacurilor aeriene ale Israelului, liniile de telefonie fixa dintre Beirut si sudul Libanului au fost intrerupte, iar reteaua rutiera din sudul tarii a fost devastata. Ministrul israelian al Apararii si-a propus si bombardarea unei autostrazi care face legatura intre Beirut si Damasc. Siria a intrat in colimatorul Israelului, dupa ce premierul Ehud Olmert a declarat ca "Siria s-a dovedit un regim care sprijina terorismul si incurajeaza actiunile criminale ale organizatiilor teroriste din si in afara granitelor ei". Pe lista tintelor luate in calcul de Israel s-au aflat si doua baze militare aeriene din nordul Libanului. Olmert isi angajeaza astfel Armata pe doua fronturi – unul cu palestinienii, celalalt cu Hezbollahul. O TARA OSTATICA. Libanul a devenit "ostaticul" ordinelor date miscarii Hezbollah de catre Siria, a anuntat ministrul Telecomunicatiilor de la Beirut, Marwan Hamade. Fostul presedinte libanez, Amine Gemayel, a declarat ca este "de neconceput ca Hezbollah sa adopte decizii in numele Libanului, angajand aceasta tara in razboi". Pe israelieni se pare ca nu-i intereseaza distrugerea infrastructurii Libanului si nici crutarea civililor. Miza este mare: Libanul trebuie invatat minte, sa nu mai accepte cu ochii inchisi prezenta Hezbollah pe teritoriul si in institutiile sale publice. SOLUTII. Consiliul de Securitate al Natiunilor Unite s-a sesizat imediat, anuntand organizarea unei reuniuni de urgenta in cursul zilei de astazi. Cei 15 membri ai CSONU vor avea intrevederi cu reprezentantii Libanului si ai Israelului si vor vota pentru trimiterea in regiune a unei misiuni speciale care sa incerce dezamorsarea conflictului. Si Liga Araba a anuntat, pentru sambata, o reuniune de urgenta la Cairo. Zvonurile aparute ieri in Israel, conform carora Hezbollahul ia in considerare transferul celor doi prizonieri israelieni in Iran, au fost infirmate aseara de Ministerul de Externe de la Teheran. "Israelul s-a blocat intr-o criza profunda si spune lucruri absurde... Dezmintim categoric informatiile israeliene privind transferul in Iran al celor doi militari israelieni capturati de Hezbollah", a anuntat un purtator de cuvant al MAE iranian. Miscarea siita din Liban a lansat cel putin 70 de rachete in Israel, anunta AFP. Potrivit Armatei israeliene, rachetele au cazut in zona localitatii Nahariya si in Haifa. In ambele orase, autoritatile au cerut populatiei sa se ascunda in adaposturi si sa urmareasca cu atentie buletinele de stiri de la radio. Spre seara, violentele au escaladat. Marina militara israeliana a lansat un atac asupra rezervoarelor de combustibil ale Aeroportului international din Beirut. DOI LA DOI. O grupare extremista din Israel, numita Brigazile Gilad Shalhevet, a anuntat capturarea a doi muncitori palestinieni din Ierusalim. Potrivit editiei online a ziarului Yedioth Ahronot, gruparea sus-citata a anuntat eliberarea palestinienilor numai in schimbul militarilor israelieni rapiti in Gaza si Liban. Jurnalul National 14.07.2006Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00ex-adNu prea ma omor dupa lucruri care nu pot fi argumentate in plan material, palpabil, dar cind vine vorba de Nostradamus parca-parca asa face o exceptie, cu atit mai mult cu cit, oricit de discutabile si elastice ar fi interpretarile catrenelor sale, undeva exista convergenta. Mai mult, pina nu vom sti ce mama naibii facem cu 95% din creierul nostru in afara centrilor de motricitate, fiziologici sau care or mai fi, nu sint foarte convinsa ca organismul uman n-ar avea si potential pentru logica profetiilor.Iata ce interpretare a fost data unora dintre catrenele sale de catre Rathford - gasiti pe Internet cartea (nu va spun unde, ca ma baga astia la Gramofonul) - am ales un text in romana, pentru cei care nu stiu englezaMonitorul Expres, 15 iulie 2006"Un manuscris descoperit la Roma aparţinînd lui Nostradamus spune că în 2006 va izbucni al treilea război mondial Uluitoarele profeţii ale lui Nostradamus au fost lăsate posterităţii în lucrarea de 4.680 de versete, „Centuriile“. O carte încă enigmatică în care sînt înscrise cu o precizie aproape matematică, destinele unor conducători şi popoare, calamităţi naturale şi războaie. O concentrare a celor mai diverse evenimente prin care oamenii şi istoria celor peste 400 de ani aveau să treacă aşa cum le prevăzuse Michel de Nostre-Dame, medic francez si astrolog. În urmă cu doi ani, la Biblioteca Naţională din Roma a fost descoperit un nou manuscris scris de Nostradamus. În cartea sa, „Codul Nostradamus, al treilea război mondial“, Dr. Michael Rathford pretinde că a descifrat noile scrieri şi astfel a aflat că anul acesta se va declanşa o mare conflagraţie mondială care se va sfîrşi abia în 2012. Profeţii împliniteNostradamus s-a bucurat de recunoaşterea talentului său ieşit din comun încă din timpul vieţii. Previziunile pe termen scurt au fost, în marea lor majoritate, corecte. Se apreciază că 70% din profeţiile lui s-au adeverit. Chiar şi momentul propriei morţi l-a apreciat corect. Pînă în prezent au fost identificate mai multe evenimente care ar fi fost prevăzute de Nostradamus în centuriile sale. Arthur Crockett le enumeră în „Profeţiile inedite ale lui Nostradamus“: dominaţia maritimă a Marii Britanii vreme de aproape trei secole, moartea lui Giordano Bruno, revolta anti-comunistă din Ungaria, moartea lui J. F. Kennedy, căderea zidului Berlinului, războiul din fosta Iugoslavie, atacul de la 11 septembrie 2001.Documentul secretÎn 21 de ani de studiu al Centuriilor, americanul Michael Rathford n-a reuşit să descopere o cheie originală de interpretare a profeţiilor lui Nostradamus. În schimb, cînd a dat peste documentul îngropat vreme de 400 de ani în arhivele Librăriei Naţionale din Roma, a avut o revelaţie. O nouă viziune asupra perioadei actuale şi viitoare a prins contur în urma decriptării manuscrisului. Acesta a fost dăruit de Nostradamus fiului său care, la rîndul său, l-a donat Papei Urban VIII. Papa l-a ascuns, de teama persecuţiilor Inchiziţiei Spaniole, asigurîndu-se că umanitatea nu îl va descoperi pînă nu va fi suficient de evoluată pentru a-l descifra. Acest timp, se pare că a sosit. Rathford a combinat metodele de analiză tradiţionale cu altele mai sofisticate şi a ajuns la concluzia că trăim „Era Necazurilor“. Cea mai detaliată perioadă este cea dintre 2006 şi 2012, ani plini de războaie, disperare, dar şi speranţă. Dar acesta nu va fi sfîrşitul lumii.Cearta marilor puteri„Codul lui Nostradamus“ vorbeşte de viitor. Astfel, se anticipează că al treilea război mondial va izbucni anul acesta şi va dura pînă în 2012. Rathford spune că, în Centuria II, Catrenele 35 şi 48, Nostradamus prezice că, din cauza greşelii unui lider politic important va avea loc un incident internaţional. Se vor răci relaţiile dintre două mari state, unul din ele fiind SUA. Preşedintele respectiv va regreta şi va încerca să-şi repare greşeala. Dar va fi înlăturat de cei care vor să-i ia locul. Va ajunge în pragul sinuciderii, fiind eliminat din politică, economie, viaţa socială. Ambele state vor avea de pierdut, dar un al treilea va avea de cîştigat. Situaţia va lua amploare atunci cînd va interveni al treilea stat, un inamic al SUA, şi astfel întreaga planetă va ajunge să stea pe un butoi de pulbere. Vremea dezastrelorÎn Centuria IV, catrenul 67, se spune că o cometă foarte luminoasă, necunoscută pînă atunci, va apărea pe cer. Acest eveniment va coincide cu importante schimbări geologice, cutremure şi erupţii de vulcani care vor bloca accesul populaţiei la apă. Calamităţile vor aduce foamete, secetă, shimbări sociale. Ţările prospere şi puternice, în special cele din vestul Europei, vor cunoaşte decăderea. Vor fi dezbinate de lupte civile şi tulburări sociale, cînd oamenii vor migra spre zonele cu apă, prielnice culturilor agricole. Cutremure şi inundaţii serioase vor genera conflicte între state. SUA va fi ruinată în încercarea de a face faţă dezastrelor. Trei alte mari naţiuni vor trimite ajutoare supravieţuitorilor din SUA în încercarea de a-i ajuta, dar acţiunile umanitare vor fi de fapt tentative de ocupaţie. Musulmanii aruncă arma nuclearăMai ales Europa Centrală şi de Sud, Orientul Apropiat şi partea estică a Mediteranei vor fi afectate de inundaţii, se spune în Centuria VIII, catrenul 29. Guvernele locale nu vor putea face faţă, populaţia înspăimîntată va fi vulnerabilă şi uşor de manipulat. În multe zone, pentru a opri tulburările şi jafurile, va fi instaurată legea marţială. Orientul Mijlociu va fi ferit de dezastre şi va sări în ajutorul ţărilor sinistrate, dar de fapt, va implementa spioni şi va înrobi aceste popoare. Centuria 11, catrenele 3 şi 4 prevestesc că, în timpul tulburărilor permanente din Orientul Mijlociu, unul dintre lideri va intra în posesia armei nucleare şi nu va ezita să o folosească. Riposta va fi, la rîndul ei, tot cu arme nucleare, din partea unei ţări care are ieşire pe coasta mediteraneeană. Una din bombe va cădea în apa Mediteranei, ucigînd toţi peştii. Căile de acces vor fi întrerupte. Popoarele care depind de comerţul cu acel stat, vor ajunge să consume peştii otrăviţi. Aceste nenorociri se vor petrece în apropierea coastei mediteraneene, într-o zonă cu stînci închise la culoare.Franţa şi Italia, distruseArma nucleară aruncată într-una din ţările Orientului Mijlociu va reaprinde războiul. Ţările europene vor încerca să intervină, interesate mai mult de aprovizionarea cu petrol. Amestecul europenilor îl va enerva pe cel care a aruncat bomba nucleară şi îl va determina să facă uz şi de restul arsenalului său, lovind partea sudică a continentului. Coasta europeană a Mediteranei, în zona Italiei, Franţei, va fi aproape de nelocuit. Centuria II, catrenul 62 spune că moartea conducătorului unui mare stat va coincide cu apariţia unei comete, care va fi vizibilă foarte clar în acele vremuri. Ţara acelui conducător se află în Orientul Mijlociu. Moartea lui şi răspîndirea foametei vor provoca declanşarea a numeroase revolte. Ele vor coincide cu apariţia cometei şi vor continua timp de 500 de zile. Războiul submarinelorCenturia II, catrenul 48 descrie detalii de război. Rachetele vor cădea în partea sudică a Oceanului Atlantic, în apropierea unui submarin rusesc. Comandantul submarinului va deschide focul asupra unui vas de suprafaţă american. Centuria III, catrenul 60 prevesteşte că un tînăr bărbat de culoare va deveni liderul ţărilor lumii a treia. Principalul lui scop este unirea mai multor ţări pentru a putea lupta contra superputerilor. Teatrul de conflict va fi în Estul Europei şi în Orientul Mijlociu, în zona Mărilor Adriatice şi Caspice şi în estul Mediteranei. Israelul va fi şi el implicat. Nu va învinge niciuna din tabere, dar lupta va ajuta la pregătirea terenului pentru Antichrist. Albii şi albaştriiCenturia II, catrenul 95 arată că zonele agricole importante vor îngheţa. Oamenii vor fugi spre locuri prielnice vieţii, dar pline de disensiuni şi lupte. Drept urmare a panicii populaţiei şi deciziilor incompetente ale guvernelor se va acumula un stres considerabil în rîndul populaţiei. Deciziile greşite vor conduce la dezastre majore. Statele Unite şi Anglia vor fi cele mai afectate. Într-o simulare a stării de război, între Marea Britanie şi alte ţări europene, va apărea o eroare care va transforma totul într-o situaţie reală de război. Se vor arunca bombe. Echipele vor fi denumite albii şi albaştrii, se spune în Centuria II, catrenul 2.Antichristul în IranPreşedinţii SUA vor încerca să extindă graniţele ţării se spune în Centuria VII, Catrenul 41. Populaţia va fi nemulţumită şi se va revolta înaintea alegerilor. Va porni un fel de război civil, dar se vor organiza noi alegeri şi la Casa Albă se va instala un candidat acceptabil. „Antichristul se va muta în Iran, printr-un şiretlic asupra şeicului, cu ajutorul oamenilor de la curtea lui. Antichristul îl va distruge declanşînd un război civil. Se va folosi de un lider iranian loial şeicului. Acesta va fi asasinat odată cu atacarea Iranului. Oamenii şeicului vor trece de partea Antichristului“, traduce americanul din Centuria II, Catrenele 23 şi 81. Antichristul va obţine puterea în Orientul Mijlociu. Apoi, se va orienta către zona Mediteranei, după ce îi va aduce pe africanii din Nord, simpatizanţi ai culturii lui, de partea blocului din Asia. Noul document nu contrazice scrierile anterioare ale lui Nostradamus. Aduce doar detalii inedite. Catrenele acoperă evenimentele pînă în 7 iulie 2993, dată posibilă a sfîrşitului lumii. Alchimist şi astrolog • Pe mormîntul lui Michel de Nostre-dame scrie: „A murit la Salon în anul 1556. Posteritate, nu-i tulbura dulcea odihnă!“. Se pare că dorinţa nu i-a fost respectată, de atunci şi pînă astăzi fiind necontenit pomenit. Născut la 14 decembrie 1503, în Franţa, Nostradamus a fost cunoscut şi cînd trăia şi azi ca „prezicător“. Provenea dintr-o familie de negustori bogaţi. A studiat matematicile şi medicina. Ca medic, s-a oferit voluntar să îngrijească victimele ciumei, boala care avea să-i răpună mai tîrziu prima soţie şi cei doi copii. Multă vreme a fost un medic oarecare, pînă cînd a experimentat cu succes noi medicamente pe bază de plante. Nostradamus a rămas în istorie datorită Centuriilor sale, prima ediţie fiind datată 3 mai 1555. Însă debutul a fost cu trei ani mai devreme cu un „Tratat despre prăjituri şi farduri“. Pasionat de alchimie, el a pus la punct o serie de reţete pentru „prăjituri medicamentoase“. Dar Nostradamus a fost interesat şi de studiul astrelor, pasiune moştenită de la străbunicul său. Tot prevestind starea meteo la curtea Cahterinei de Médicis, i-a venit ideea să facă predicţii şi pentru viitorul îndepărtat. Centuriile sînt scrise într-un limbaj codat. Acesta este motivul pentru care decriptarea lor dă naştere a zeci de variante. Invadatori din Asia • Românul Vlaicu Ionescu, un interpret celebru al scrierilor lui Nostradamus, confirmă iminenţa unui al treilea război mondial. Decriptînd catrenele prezicătorului, Ionescu spune că „Europa va fi invadată de o coaliţie arabo-chineză, iar războiul va începe la nordul şi la sudul Mării Negre, ceea ce va afecta şi România, însă nu foarte grav, pentru că ţara noastră, aşa cum Nostradamus a spus-o în repetate rînduri, este protejată de voinţa divină“. Războiul va fi devastator, dar nu va duce la sfîrşitul lumii. Jean-Claude Bernard confirmă faptul că Nostradamus a prezis în catrenul 8-99 că trei lideri „vor prelua puterea la Roma“. Unul va fi rus, celălalt asiatic şi al treilea musulman. Salvarea omenirii va fi un rege născut la eclipsa din 1999. Vlaicu Ionescu crede că va domni în Franţa, în jurul anului 2022 şi va deveni spaima invadatorilor asiatici. Trei antichrişti • Cele mai vehiculate profeţii ale lui Nostradamus se referă la dictatorii lumii. Primul dintre ei ar fi Napoleon Bonaparte. „Născut lîngă Italia“, acesta va deveni, dintr-un simplu soldat, împărat. Îşi va trimite armata în Rusia, va lăsa în ruină un oraş (Moscova), iar în timpul retragerii mulţi dintre soldaţii lui „vor muri în teritoriul alb“. Predicţiile vorbesc despre „prinţul învins trimis în Elba“, după înfrîngerea „prin marele efort al forţelor străine“ (Waterloo). Al doilea antichrist ar fi Hitler (Hister): „un om pătat de crime“, „cel mai mare duşman al rasei umane“. După ce va cîştiga de partea lui mulţi oameni, acest „căpitan al Germaniei“, care nu va respecta nici o lege, va oferi omenirii doar „lacrimi, foc, sînge şi război“. Moartea dictatorului, „lîngă Rhin“, va rămîne sub semnul incertitudinii. Al treilea antichrist va fi un credincios al lui Mohammed, din Orientul Apropiat, care se va război cu Europa. Invazia va declanşa al treilea război mondial. Omenirea va fi ameninţată cu distrugerea totală. Războiul se va sfîrşi cînd liderii a două mari puteri de la Polul Nord (Rusia şi SUA) vor deveni prieteni. de Camelia ONCIU"Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00roninNimic despre Yemen...???!!!Propaganda sau nu ?!Casa Albă a declarat pentru CNN că deţine informaţii potrivit cărora reţeaua condusă de Ossama ben Laden pregăteşte atacuri împotriva intereselor americane şi britanice din Yemen.LINKYémen : la disparition de camions militaires serait à l’origine de la fermeture des ambassadesLa BBC indiquait lundi que la disparition de six camions de l’armée yéménites chargés de centaines d’armes et de munitions était à l’origine de la décision des Etats-Unis, de la Grande-Bretagne et de la France de fermer leur représentation diplomatique dans le pays.Sursa: LINK (via pana&cand) TXRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisMomentan,baietii cu baza in Djibouti se ocupa de Yemen cu metodele specifice.Antrenament,livrari de echipamente pt fortele guvernului si probabil participare directa.Mare lucru nu stiu momentan dar daca actiunile lor in Somalia pot fi luate ca reper ar trebui sa ne asteptam la ceva succese in directia asta. ACH ar putea sa zica mai multe despre Camp Lemonier.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisLINK Toate bune si frumoase,dar ce le veni israelienilor sa atace vasele in apele internationale.E piraterie curata.Legal,Turcia si cine din NATO o mai fi avut nave in flotila asta poate invoca Articolul 5.Dpdv al PR e un dezastru pt. Itic.Abstractie facand de cele 2 aspecte de mai sus,israelienii sunt intre ciocan si nicovala:fie lasa orice nava sa ajunga in Gaza si atunci degeaba se mai chinuie si ei si Egiptul sa mentina embargoul Gazei,fie mentin blocada si asta e.Organizarea intregii expeditii a fost o provocare,iar faptul ca toate ofertele moderate ale Israelului au fost respinse(de exemplu nu voiau sa permita livrarea de beton,care-i bun si pt. locuinte si pt. buncare,dorind sa inlocuiasca betonul cu lemn la valoare egala).Una peste alta,o bulibaseala totala.Singurul efect cu adevarat periculos e faptul ca (aproape sigur) alianta Turciei cu Israelul e moarta si ingropata.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00ResboiuInca un episod din seria in care Israelul intinde coarda cu Turcia. Si cu altii. Cred ca si americanilor au inceput sa le stea in gat.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisLucrurile sunt mai amestecate.Vinovati sunt si unii si altii.Cert e ca israelienii au fost fentati rau de tot azi.Dpdv imagologic gasca adversa lor a castigat fara drept de apel.Dar asta nu inseamna ca sunt niste sfinti. p.s Revizuire a ce am spus mai devreme.Atacul a avut loc in interiorul zonei economice extinse a Israelului.Ceea ce inseamna ca aveau dreptul legal sa controleze navele.Ceea ce inseamna ca nu ei sunt pirati,ci aceia care i-au atacat pe militari sunt de fapt infractori. Msimula@ daca esti prin zona,zi si dumneata ceva,ca parca ai facut scoala de marinari.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumMihais wrote ... Momentan,baietii cu baza in Djibouti se ocupa de Yemen cu metodele specifice.Antrenament,livrari de echipamente pt fortele guvernului si probabil participare directa.Mare lucru nu stiu momentan dar daca actiunile lor in Somalia pot fi luate ca reper ar trebui sa ne asteptam la ceva succese in directia asta. ACH ar putea sa zica mai multe despre Camp Lemonier. Au luat baracile,le-au pus aer conditionat si au ditamai hangarul rezervat pe Djibouti IntlA. Pregatirea o fac cu noi la Poste Gaucher (fostul CECAP Arta Plage).Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisInca un film cu batai,in regia involuntara a flotei militare israelite,cu participarea plina de succes a tovarasilor manifestanti pasnici.Asa se scrie(sau se filmeaza)istoria.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisACH,daca nu-i secret,din ce trib de speciali fac parte specialii yankei din Djibouti?Bereti verzi,SEALS etc.. ,sau sunt toti gramada?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumNota 2 la Krav-Maga pentru israelieni.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisAha,si astia cica-s Shayatet13.Acum intrebarea(off-topica,desigur)e daca toata chestia asta cu artele martiene e buna de ceva?Ca eu vad ca la o adica,tot ciobaneasca e sfanta.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumMihais wrote ... ACH,daca nu-i secret,din ce trib de speciali fac parte specialii yankei din Djibouti?Bereti verzi,SEALS etc.. ,sau sunt toti gramada? Din ce am vazut : US. Navy Seals, Recapture Tactic Team si TACP's. Plus o multime de normali,Marines cei mai multi. Majoritatea mergeau în Irak sau A-stan. Stagii cu grade de dificultate diferite,si foarte "targetate" pentru fiecare.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumMihais wrote ...Aha,si astia cica-s Shayatet13.Acum intrebarea(off-topica,desigur)e daca toata chestia asta cu artele martiene e buna de ceva?Ca eu vad ca la o adica,tot ciobaneasca e sfanta. E buna pentru 2 chestii : te mentine în forma si îti creeaza niste reflexe. Tocmai bine sa faci fata unei ciobanesti O fi fost Shayatet,divizia comunitara...poate... ?!?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Radu PatrascuAstia, Shayetet 13, nu sunt un echivalent al DEVGRU sau SBS ?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisEi si nimeni altii.Momentan circul diplomatic e in desfasurare.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisCe am observat,asa mai la rece.1.Ostenii lui Itic au fost luati prin surprindere de violentii pacifisti.Ce au pazit shpionii lu' peste sarat?Nu numai cei ce ar fi trebuit sa fie infiltrati la bord,dar sa nu fi vazut nimic cu UAV?2.Operatiunea a fost planuita in asa fel incat nivelul de violenta sa fie minim.Trupetii au avut munitie de paintball si nu au recurs la pistoale decat in ultima instanta.Nici macar nu au tras cu gloante de cauciuc din elicopter(la distanta si unghiul ala de impact ar fi fost probabil letale oricum).Oricum una-i socoteala de acasa,alta e in targ.3.Shayetet 13 nu sunt Shaolin.Kung Fu e mai tare decat Krav Maga (nu ma luati in serios)4.Cineva care stie legea sa ma lamureasca ce-i cu Zona Economica Extinsa.Din ce am gasit eu pana ora asta am ramas incurcat .Se aplica sau nu legea tarii respective pe mare,sau nava e considerata teritoriu national?Apropos,Consiliul de Securitate ONU deja a zis in declaratia oficiala ca raidul a avut loc in apele internationale,deci disputa asta legala nu are prea multa importanta(decat poate pt. a nu muri eu prost).5.Raman la parerea ca toata treaba a fost o provocare mizerabila care a iesit mai bine decat puteau visa organizatorii ei.6.Las pe meseriasi sa isi dea cu parerea cum ar fi putut fi pregatit mai bine asaltul(presupunand ca informatii mai bune ar fi existat).Opinia mea e ca o formatiune echipata pentru lupta de strada ar fi fost o optiune mai buna decat trupe neinstruite in genul asta de confruntari.Daca aia ar fi putut sa fie desantati e alta poveste.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumDa...hai sa-i citim pe profesionisti. Ma duc sa-mi iau un scaun si revin.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumBuuun. Asadar,cei care au interveit au fost sigur de la Shayetet 13,cea mai veche unitate pentru misiuni speciale a IDF. Dupa ceva cautari,si tinând cont de rezultatul incursiunii acestora,cred ca avem aici si clipul cu aceasta unitate. P.S Serios vorbind acum : nu e nici prima si nici ultima data când o unitate buna se împiedica în sireturi. Se mai întâmpla,si numai cine nu munceste nu greseste.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisAsa scrie la ziar(Haaretz,Jerusalem post si YT News),ca a fost Flotila 13(numarul a purtat oare ghinion????).Elita elitelor ar fi fost trimisa pt. a impresiona masele cu o demonstratie de eficienta razboinica.Sefi de rang inalt au fost la fata locului iar sefi si mai mari au fost consultati cu privire la ordinul de deschidere a focului. De unde rezulta ca fiecare unitate trebuie folosita pe tarlaua ei,iar lucrurile nu trebuie amestecate.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MorocanosuONU are dreptate. Dupa umilele mele cunostinte de drept international public, zonele maritime asupra carora statele au drepturi suverane sunt:- platoul continental - 200 de mile in larg, masurate de la linia de baza a marii teritoriale (Conventia din 1958, cea din 1982, art. 76-85);- zona contigua - 24 de mile de la linia de baza a marii teritoriale;- zona economica exclusiva - 200 de mile in larg de la liniile de baza de la care se masoara latimea marii teritoriale.Zona economica nu face parte din teritoriul statului riveran. Ea este supusa jurisdictiei acestuia si drepturilor sale suverane economice, dar prezinta si aspecte de mare libera (libertatea de navigatie, de survol, etc.) deci are un regim juridic mixt.Nu va bateti capul cu asa-zisa "zona economica extinsa". Nu a fost vreodata consacrata in dreptul marii (sau maritim), fiind o gaselnita a unor juristi mai cu tupeu....As vrea totusi sa va captez atentia cu o alta notiune din dreptul marii. Este vorba de dreptul de trecere inofensiva, garantat de conventiile internationale in vigoare, navelor comerciale ale tuturor statelor (free passage). Conditia principala este ca aceasta sa fie neintrerupta si rapida (prin marea teritoriala - insa nu sunt prevazute conditiile de trecere prin zona economica exclusiva sau extinsa, tocmai din cauza regimului juridic cu grad mare de libertate).Totodata, art. 8 al Conventiei din 1982, prevede ca o free passage nu mai este inofensiva, daca nava straina:- ameninta cu forta sau foloseste forta impotriva statului riveran (si implicit) suveran;- efectueaza exercitii sau manevre cu arme de orice fel;- culege informatii care pot sa aduca prejudicii apararii si securitatii statului suveran (si aici poti sa-i "incarci bateriile" la greu oricui);- desfasoara propaganda care prejudiciaza interesele apararii sau ale securitatii (bun motiv !);- imbarcarea, debarcarea de marfuri, bani sau persoane cu incalcarea reglementarilor statului riveran... si mai sunt vreo trei liniute...Deci daca Itic vrea sa interpreteze in favoarea lui Conventia de la Geneva din 1982 (la fel cum Guvernul Boc interpreteaza Constitutia), totul e posibil si justificat....Daca insa ne referim la sanctiunile cu folosirea fortei armate, trebuie sa spunem ca, (scuze, n-am gasit alta rima) Carta ONU, cap. VII, art. 42 prevede urmatoarele: "Constatarea si aplicarea sanctiunilor este incredintata Consiliului de Securitate, care are si raspunderea principala pentru mantinerea pacii si securitatii internationale". Itic are dreptul la autoaparare individuala, numai in cazul unui atac armat si numai pana cand Consiliul de Securitate va lua masurile necesare pentru "mentinerea pacii si securitatii".Intrucat un atac armat constituie o folosire ilegala a fortei, exercitiul dreptului de autoaparare, apare ca o reactie la un asemenea act, deci are caracter de sanctiune. Este singura situatie in care statele au dreptul sa recurga la forta armata ca forma de autoajutor si aceasta, in limitele prevazute de Carta.Acu' stau si eu si ma-ntreb ca prostu'... Convoiul asta de ajutor umanitar o fi atacat navele Statului Israel ?!?... Si daca da, cu ce ?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumLa TF 1,spune un militant francez care a tocmai a fost expulzat din Israel : "noi nu am avut decât cutite,bombe lacrimogene si prastii cu bile de metal. Nu puteam sa ne aparam .". Un atasat a Ambasadei Israelului la Paris îl întreba,aproape zâmbind : " si doreati sa va aparati cu bile si cutite,sau ce ?" . Probabil ca va reîncepe baletul cu SUA facând pe mediatorul între Turcia si Israel. Oricum,ce e interesant e ca opinia publica din Israel nu prea pare sa înghita esecul operatiunii,iar Netanyahu e tratat drept "american care doar traieste în Israel". A suivre...Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisMultumesc. Strict vorbind Israelul a instaurat blocada in jurul Gazei,care e zona de razbel(imi pare ca si Egiptul a inchis frontiera sa).Logic imi pare ca cei care livreaza arme sau produse care permit Hamas prelungirea ostilitatilor sunt cei care comit un act de agresiune(nu discut legic,caci nu stiu si nici cine are dreptate in conflict). Acum Israelul a decis ca cimentul e articol strategic ce permite Hamas continuarea ostilitatilor,prin folosirea lui la constructia de buncare(cam tras de par,dar oricum baietii nu de tupeu duc lipsa).Ca aveau in vase ciment sau rachete SCUD,pt. ei nu mai conteaza.Se considerau indreptatiti sa actioneze.Repet,nu comentez inca problema morala a blocadei,aspectul umanitar si nici pe cel politic. Intrebarea este daca israelitii au dreptul de a controla navele in conditiile acestea(si viceversa,daca echipajul de pe nava are dreptul de a se opune). Oricum intentia lor initiala era de a duce navele in portul israelian Ashdod,unde toate ajutoarele umanitare urmau sa fie trimise in Gaza sub supravegherea ONG-urilor(cimentul voiau sa-l inlocuiasca cu lemn de o valoare egala cu a cimentului confiscat)Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MorocanosuIata si reactia (rapida) a unor "cunoscuti" care isi beau cafeaua la Departamentul de Stat... http://view.newsletters.usip.org/?j=fe6b15717164077c7c15&m=fec915787666067b&ls=fe0415747066057f71137074&l=fec917767662077c&s=fe3b11747567017d771570&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe221573726c0c74711170&r=0Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisDeclaratia CS al ONU'' The UN Security Council has agreed a statement following Israel's raid on Monday on a convoy of aid ships bound for Gaza. Here is the full text:The Security Council deeply regrets the loss of life and injuries resulting from the use of force during the Israeli military operation in international waters against the convoy sailing to Gaza. The Council, in this context, condemns those acts which resulted in the loss of at least ten civilians and many wounded, and expresses its condolences to their families.The Security Council requests the immediate release of the ships as well as the civilians held by Israel. The Council urges Israel to permit full consular access, to allow the countries concerned to retrieve their deceased and wounded immediately, and to ensure the delivery of humanitarian assistance from the convoy to its destination.The Security Council takes note of the statement of the UN Secretary-General on the need to have a full investigation into the matter and it calls for a prompt, impartial, credible and transparent investigation conforming to international standards.The Security Council stresses that the situation in Gaza is not sustainable. The Council re-emphasizes the importance of the full implementation of Resolutions 1850 and 1860. In that context, it reiterates its grave concern at the humanitarian situation in Gaza and stresses the need for sustained and regular flow of goods and people to Gaza as well as unimpeded provision and distribution of humanitarian assistance throughout Gaza.The Security Council underscores that the only viable solution to Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an agreement negotiated between the parties and re-emphasises that only a two-State solution, with an independent and viable Palestinian State living side by side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbours, could bring peace to the region.The Security Council expresses support for the proximity talks and voices concern that this incident took place while the proximity talks are underway and urges the parties to act with restraint, avoiding any unilateral and provocative actions, and all international partners to promote an atmosphere of cooperation between the parties and throughout the region.''Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisOleaca de off-topic.Militantii astia merita o bataie,da' una asa ca in filmele cu Vandam.Soiul asta de rasfatati altfel nu pricep.off-topic outRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00SurryPoate sunt eu un pic cu capul(nu ar fi exclus )dar mie mi se pare mai mult o interpretare gresita si fortata a Principiului represiunii universale.În temeiul principiului represiunii universale, statul pe al cărui teritoriu a fost descoperită persoana care a comis o infracţiune internaţională este competent să o judece şi să o pedepsească, indiferent de locul unde a fost comisă infracţiunea. În acest fel se aplică principiul roman: „ubi te invenero, ibi te judicabo – unde te voi găsi acolo de voi judeca!Daca gresesc..astept critici!Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00sorinDin pacate au trimis la atac cei mai buni Rottweilers, dar au uitat sa le scoata botnitele! Daca erau mai putin dresati nu ateptau sa dea aia cu rangile in ei. Baietii nostrii de la stana n-ar fi stat asa si sigur ar fi fost mult mai eficace bata lor!!Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumCiobani de la stâna de...interventie ?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Surryuite si alta viziune asupra problemei.The law and the Blockade RunnersDistribuie Azi la 14:32The usual nonsense about International Law is being posted all over the net in relation to Israel’s enforcement of the navel blockade of Gaza.Just a few points of Law to give you some background (it’s all taken from “The Commander’s Handbook on the Law Of Naval Operations” (US Department of Defense, 1 Jul 2007).BLOCKADES ARE LEGAL“the belligerent right of blockade is intended to prevent vessels and aircraft, regardless of their cargo, from crossing an established and publicized cordon separating the enemy from international waters and/or airspace.” (Section 7.7.1.)ISRAEL CAN ENFORCE THE BLOCKADE IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS“Attempted breach of blockade occurs from the time a vessel or aircraft leaves a port or airfield with the intention of evading the blockade, and for vessels exiting the blockaded area, continues until the voyage is completed.” (Section 7.7.4.)IT DOESN’T MATTER THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE “HUMANITARIAN AID”“neutral vessels and aircraft engaged in the carriage of qualifying relief supplies for the civilian population and the sick and wounded should be authorized to pass through the blockade cordon, subject to the right of the blockading force to prescribe the technical arrangements, including search, under which passage is permitted.” (Section 7.7.3.)ISRAEL HAS EVERY RIGHT TO BOARD AND EVEN CAPTURE THE BLOCKADE RUNNERS“Neutral merchant vessels and civil aircraft are liable to capture by belligerent warships and military aircraft if engaged in any of the following activities:…2. Resisting visit and search3. Carrying contraband4. Breaching or attempting to breach blockade… 6. Violating regulations established by a belligerent within the immediate area of naval operations…Neutral vessels or aircraft attempting to resist proper capture lay themselves open to forcible measures by belligerent warships and military aircraft and assume all risk of resulting damage.” (Section 7.10)Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisDeci logica are si ceva reflectare in legica.Bine,asta nu-i va scuti pe israeliti de o campanie de propaganda.Din pacate pt. ei nu prea au fost atat de inspirati incat sa-i aresteze pe toti cei aflati la bord si sa-i judece.Sa raspunda la circ cu circ.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Surryuite ultima noutate,direct de la sursa :http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/About%20the%20Ministry/MFA%20Spokesman/2010/MFA-web-conference-with-FACEBOOK-group-3-Jun-2010.htm.Sa vedem ce vor avea de spus..Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00sorinMama Tereza:LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00sorinGlenn Beck, Fox New's:LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisLINK Nici cu Hamas nu imi e jena.Glen Beck e mai incet decat noi.YesssRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Surryultimele concluzii neoficiale..,vocea "poporului"LINK.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisDomnul acesta scrie ce gandesc eu despre toata treaba. LINK ''Israel and the Surrender of the WestOne of the world's oldest stories is playing out before our eyes: The Jews are being scapegoated again.By SHELBY STEELEThe most interesting voice in all the fallout surrounding the Gaza flotilla incident is that sanctimonious and meddling voice known as "world opinion." At every turn "world opinion," like a school marm, takes offense and condemns Israel for yet another infraction of the world's moral sensibility. And this voice has achieved an international political legitimacy so that even the silliest condemnation of Israel is an opportunity for self-congratulation.Rock bands now find moral imprimatur in canceling their summer tour stops in Israel (Elvis Costello, the Pixies, the Gorillaz, the Klaxons). A demonstrator at an anti-Israel rally in New York carries a sign depicting the skull and crossbones drawn over the word "Israel." White House correspondent Helen Thomas, in one of the ugliest incarnations of this voice, calls on Jews to move back to Poland. And of course the United Nations and other international organizations smugly pass one condemnatory resolution after another against Israel while the Obama administration either joins in or demurs with a wink.This is something new in the world, this almost complete segregation of Israel in the community of nations. And if Helen Thomas's remarks were pathetic and ugly, didn't they also point to the end game of this isolation effort: the nullification of Israel's legitimacy as a nation? There is a chilling familiarity in all this. One of the world's oldest stories is playing out before our eyes: The Jews are being scapegoated again."World opinion" labors mightily to make Israel look like South Africa looked in its apartheid era—a nation beyond the moral pale. And it projects onto Israel the same sin that made apartheid South Africa so untouchable: white supremacy. Somehow "world opinion" has moved away from the old 20th century view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a complicated territorial dispute between two long-suffering peoples. Today the world puts its thumb on the scale for the Palestinians by demonizing the stronger and whiter Israel as essentially a colonial power committed to the "occupation" of a beleaguered Third World people.This is now—figuratively in some quarters and literally in others—the moral template through which Israel is seen. It doesn't matter that much of the world may actually know better. This template has become propriety itself, a form of good manners, a political correctness. Thus it is good manners to be outraged at Israel's blockade of Gaza, and it is bad manners to be outraged at Hamas's recent attack on a school because it educated girls, or at the thousands of rockets Hamas has fired into Israeli towns—or even at the fact that Hamas is armed and funded by Iran. The world wants independent investigations of Israel, not of Hamas.One reason for this is that the entire Western world has suffered from a deficit of moral authority for decades now. Today we in the West are reluctant to use our full military might in war lest we seem imperialistic; we hesitate to enforce our borders lest we seem racist; we are reluctant to ask for assimilation from new immigrants lest we seem xenophobic; and we are pained to give Western Civilization primacy in our educational curricula lest we seem supremacist. Today the West lives on the defensive, the very legitimacy of our modern societies requiring constant dissociation from the sins of the Western past—racism, economic exploitation, imperialism and so on.When the Israeli commandos boarded that last boat in the flotilla and, after being attacked with metal rods, killed nine of their attackers, they were acting in a world without the moral authority to give them the benefit of the doubt. By appearances they were shock troopers from a largely white First World nation willing to slaughter even "peace activists" in order to enforce a blockade against the impoverished brown people of Gaza. Thus the irony: In the eyes of a morally compromised Western world, the Israelis looked like the Gestapo.This, of course, is not the reality of modern Israel. Israel does not seek to oppress or occupy—and certainly not to annihilate—the Palestinians in the pursuit of some atavistic Jewish supremacy. But the merest echo of the shameful Western past is enough to chill support for Israel in the West.The West also lacks the self-assurance to see the Palestinians accurately. Here again it is safer in the white West to see the Palestinians as they advertise themselves—as an "occupied" people denied sovereignty and simple human dignity by a white Western colonizer. The West is simply too vulnerable to the racist stigma to object to this "neo-colonial" characterization.Our problem in the West is understandable. We don't want to lose more moral authority than we already have. So we choose not to see certain things that are right in front of us. For example, we ignore that the Palestinians—and for that matter much of the Middle East—are driven to militancy and war not by legitimate complaints against Israel or the West but by an internalized sense of inferiority. If the Palestinians got everything they want—a sovereign nation and even, let's say, a nuclear weapon—they would wake the next morning still hounded by a sense of inferiority. For better or for worse, modernity is now the measure of man.And the quickest cover for inferiority is hatred. The problem is not me; it is them. And in my victimization I enjoy a moral and human grandiosity—no matter how smart and modern my enemy is, I have the innocence that defines victims. I may be poor but my hands are clean. Even my backwardness and poverty only reflect a moral superiority, while my enemy's wealth proves his inhumanity.In other words, my hatred is my self-esteem. This must have much to do with why Yasser Arafat rejected Ehud Barak's famous Camp David offer of 2000 in which Israel offered more than 90% of what the Palestinians had demanded. To have accepted that offer would have been to forgo hatred as consolation and meaning. Thus it would have plunged the Palestinians—and by implication the broader Muslim world—into a confrontation with their inferiority relative to modernity. Arafat knew that without the Jews to hate an all-defining cohesion would leave the Muslim world. So he said no to peace.And this recalcitrance in the Muslim world, this attraction to the consolations of hatred, is one of the world's great problems today—whether in the suburbs of Paris and London, or in Kabul and Karachi, or in Queens, N.Y., and Gaza. The fervor for hatred as deliverance may not define the Muslim world, but it has become a drug that consoles elements of that world in the larger competition with the West. This is the problem we in the West have no easy solution to, and we scapegoat Israel—admonish it to behave better—so as not to feel helpless. We see our own vulnerability there.Mr. Steele is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.''Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00SASMişcarea islamistă din Somalia a decretat că toţi bărbaţii din capitala ţării trebuie să poarte barbă şi să-şi aranjeze mustăţile. Cine nu respectă sharia, riscă să fie pedepsit potrivit draticei legi islamice. Bărbaţii nebărboşi nu mai sunt toleraţi de grupările islamiste somaleze. Imaginea 1/1.“Bărbaţilor li se ordonă să-şi lase barbă, iar oricine care încalcă această regulă va suferi consecinţele”, le-a spus reporterilor Hashi Mohamed Farah, unul dintre liderii mişcării islamiste Hezb al-Islam.Acest ordin e în armonie cu edictul unui alt grup islamic, Shebab, organizaţie inspirată de al-Qaeda. Shebab şi Hezb al-Islam controlează cea mai mare parte din Somalia.“A purta barbă este o învăţătură morală lăsată de profetul Mahomed, pacea fie cu El, aşa că e o obligaţie să ţinem vie această practică religioasă şi să îi pedepsim pe bărbaţii care-şi rad barba şi-şi lasă mustaţă”, a adăugat Farah.În unele părţi ale oraşului Mogadishu şi în alte regiuni ale ţării, sharia este aplicată strict de către organizaţia Shebab care are, în acest sens, şi o ramură de poliţie religioasă, “Armata moralităţii”, informează iol.co.za. Alte reguli impuse de islamişti includ interdicţia de a viziona meciurile de la Campionatul Mondial, de-a asculta muzică vestică sau de-a juca jocuri video.LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisApropos de islamistii din Somalia.Deunazi citeam ca vreo cateva persoana au fost executate pt. ca urmareau Cupa Mondiala.Fotbalul distrage omul de la indeplinirea datoriei sale de a lupta contra necredinciosilor...Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisCircul continua.Azi un nou episod .In episoadele urmatoare,vom vedea probabil o noua demosntratie pugilistica intre israeliti si Hezbollah LINK Hezbollah and allies topple Lebanese unity governmentLebanon's national unity government has collapsed after 11 ministers from Hezbollah and its allies resigned.Energy Minister Gibran Bassil said the decision was prompted by a dispute over the UN tribunal investigating former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri's murder.The announcement came as Prime Minister Saad Hariri, his son, was meeting US President Barack Obama in Washington.Tension has been high in Lebanon, amid indications that Hezbollah members could be indicted by the UN tribunal.On Tuesday, officials said efforts by the Syrian and Saudi Arabian governments to reach a political compromise had failed. The opposition has claimed that a potential deal was blocked by the US.There are widespread fears that a collapse of the government could spark an outbreak of sectarian violence, last seen in Beirut in 2008.Caretaker roleUnder a power-sharing deal agreed in November 2009 to end five months of deadlock, the Shia Islamist movement Hezbollah was given two posts in the 30-member national unity government. Its allies - the Shia Amal movement and the bloc of the Maronite Christian leader and former general Michel Aoun - got another eight.Mr Hariri's Sunni Future movement and its Maronite Christian and Druze allies, meanwhile, had 15 ministers in the cabinet.The five remaining ministers were named by President Michel Suleiman.The resignations of more than a third of the ministers were required to bring down the government.On Wednesday, the 10 ministers allied to Hezbollah were joined by one of the president's appointees, Minister of State Adnan Sayyed Hussein, in announcing that they would resign and force the government's collapse.Mr Hariri will now head a caretaker administration while the president consults parliamentary blocs to seek agreement on an acceptable new figure.Mr Bassil, a member of the Christian Free Patriotic Movement, said the prime minister had rejected their demands for an urgent cabinet session to discuss withdrawing all co-operation with the UN-backed Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) and denouncing any indictments."The grace period has ended, and the waiting stage that we lived through without any result has ended," he told Reuters news agency.Environment Minister Mohammad Rahhal, a member of the Future Movement, said the resignations were aimed at paralysing the state and forcing Mr Hariri to reject the authority of the tribunal investigating his father's murder."They think that by piling the pressure on him, that Hariri will bend, but they are mistaken," he told the AFP news agency.Other allies of the prime minister criticised Hezbollah for making the announcement coincide with his meeting with President Obama.BBC Beirut correspondent Jim Muir says this is believed to be the first time in Lebanon's history that a government has been brought down by ministerial resignations rather than the prime minister himself deciding to call it a day.This is a struggle over the regional balance of power, which was heavily in Washington's favour at the time the UN tribunal was established, but has now swung back in the direction of Syria, Iran and their local allies on the Lebanese stage, our correspondent says.But, he adds, while bringing down the government is one thing, replacing it with another is something else.At the moment, Mr Hariri's allies insist that only he should head any new government. So getting them to agree to someone closer to Syria and the Lebanese opposition will be very hard, our correspondent says.President Suleiman will go through the motions to find a compromise candidate, but the consultations are likely to go round in circles as long as there is no agreement, and certainly there is none in sight, he adds.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumNu-i chiar Orient,si nici Mijlociu,dar n-am gasit Maghreb-ul prin forum : Tunisia,ramâne regimul în picioare ori ba ?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisCircul a inceput de la faptul ca un tanar isi dadu foc dupa ce politia ia confiscat marfa(niste fructe,parca) pe care le comercializa ''ilegal''.Baiul e ca birocratia e asa de mare incat orice ai incerca sa faci,iti lipseste vreo autorizatie ici,una colo.Cam ca la noi.Oricum la astia e macel mare.LINK Protesters killed in Tunisia riotsFatalities reported after fresh clashes between demonstrators and security forces across north African nation.Last Modified: 09 Jan 2011 20:39 GMTSeveral people have been killed in clashes with police in different parts of Tunisia.Union sources told Al Jazeera that six people were killed and another six wounded in the city of Tala, 200km southwest of the capital Tunis, on Saturday after security forces opened fire on protesters.Another 14 people were killed in similar clashes in the Kasserine region, the sources said.Tunisia official media said on Sunday that there had been 14 deaths in the past 24 hours in Tala, Kasserine and Rgeb.Several police officers were wounded in the clashes, some of them seriously, according to the official TAP news agency.Belgacem Sayhi, a teacher and trade union activist, told the AFP news agency that the victims in Tala were between 17 and 30 years old, and were killed when the police opened fire on the crowd. Unverified photos from Tunisia sent via social mediaAn employee at a hospital in Tala told Reuters that several people were admitted to the hospital after the clashes, and other witnesses said that six people who were in critical condition had been moved to the regional capital, Kasserine.Witnesses said police fired their weapons after using water cannons to try to disperse a crowd which had set fire to a government building.The crowd also threw stones and petrol bombs at police.Defending its actions, a government statement said: "The police opened fire in legitimate self-defence and this led to two dead and eight wounded, as well as several wounded among police, three of them seriously."A press blackout has made confirming witness accounts difficult, but Al Jazeera has been sent a considerable number of disturbing, grisly images of what appear to be injured and dead protesters via social media.There had already been unrest in Tala on Friday, with protesters attacking a bank and official buildings, and setting them on fire, Sadok Mahmoudi, a union leader, told AFP news agency.Paris explosionIn a related development, French police confirmed that a "small explosion" occurred at the Tunisian consulate in a Paris suburb early on Sunday morning.The blast took place at the consulate in Pantin, and caused "minor damage to the consulates metal shutters", police said.More on the story on Al Jazeera's Tunisia spotlight pageRaouf Najar, Tunisia's ambassador to France, said in a statement: "The disinformation these past few days on what is happening in Tunisia is such that anything is possible, even this terrorist act."The consulate reopened for business later on Sunday morning, with a police guard posted outside.On Saturday, troops were deployed to the area for the first time since the start of the recent wave of unrest which has been in protest at high levels of youth unemployment.The soldiers were assigned to protect public buildings, said Mahmoudi.Protests sparked by high youth unemployment have spread from the central town of Sidi Bouzid to other parts chiefly in the north African country's interior, which lags behind the more prosperous coastal areas.Union protestOn Saturday, the Tunisian General Union of Labour (UGTT), the country's main union, condemned the authorities for their heavy-handed response to protesters.Several hundred UGTT members gathered in Tunis to observe a minute's silence for those who have died since protests began."We support the demands of the people in Sidi Bouzid and interior regions," said Abid Brigui, deputy general secretary of the union, which is considered to be close to the government.Last week, a 26-year-old Tunisian man who set off a wave of protests after attempting to commit suicide by setting himself on fire last month died of third-degree burns in hospital.Zine al Abidine Ben Ali , the Tunisian president, has said the violent protests are unacceptable and could harm the country's interests by discouraging investors and tourists who provide a large part of the country's revenues.Protests traditionally have been rare in Tunisia, which has had only two presidents since independence from France 55 years ago.The country has in the past been praised by Western allies as a model of stability and prosperity in the Arab world.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisMon ACH Boribum,cu soiul asta de harapi ati avut ceva treaba?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumDa,am avut. De fiecare data când am fost în vacanta. 125 de dinari taxiul de la Tunis la Cartagina,sa vezi acolo lupte Nu,tunisienii sunt niste marocani mai saraci,plini de bun-simt si cu o tara frumoasa si pasnica. "Pacificata" de francezi demult,dar pe vremea aia era bunica fata. Astazi,Ben-Ali s-a jucat de-a Ceausescu...a plecat cu avionul si dus a fost. Înc-un regim socialisto-autoritaro-nationalist în minus. Bravo lor.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisDaca vrei sa vezi lupte la Cartagina iti trebuie ceva imaginatie.E ceva vreme de cand Scipio Africanul,Patton,Rommel sau Messe i-au vizitat. Odata cu regimul s-a dus si turismul,cel putin anul acesta.Pana acum schimbarile s-au soldat cu intarirea elementelor islamice cam peste tot la sud de Mediterana,chiar si in tarile unde nu islamistii au pornit ostilitatile.Pana si in Turcia zisa seculara reformele au dus la cresterea islamului ca ideologie politica.E de vazut cum se va misca TunisiaRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00ex-adLINKCoşmarul unui nou război face să tremure Orientul Mijlociu16 Ianuarie 2011de VALI DEACONESCU Că Libanul este la un pas de abis era clar de mai multe luni. Lumea era deja pregătită de ieşirea din executiv a celor 11 miniştri din Hezbollah şi demisia ulterioară a guvernului. Momentul critic a venit atunci când premierul Saad Hariri a plecat la Washington, unde s-a întâlnit cu aliatul său cel mai important, preşedintele american Barack Obama, notează Corriere della Sera în ediţia de vineri, citată de Agerpres.În acel moment coaliţia de la guvernare s-a dezmembrat. Motivul? Simplu, potrivit publicaţiei menţionate. Hariri a refuzat să cedeze (a priori) unui şantaj, nerecunoaşterea deciziei tribunalului ONU, care este pe cale să facă publice acuzaţiile la adresa presupuşilor autori ai masacrului de Sfântul Valentin (14 februarie 2005), când 22 de persoane au fost ucise. Masacrul avea ca obiectiv asasinarea fostului premier Rafik Hariri, tatăl actualului premier demisionar.Problema este că judecătorii ar fi ajuns la concluzia că autorii masacrului fac parte din conducerea Hezbollah. O acuzaţie pe care liderul Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, o consideră "calomnioasă." Nu numai că o respinge, dar spune că este rezultatul unui complot "sionist şi american." Deci, ca o măsură preventivă, a luat decizia ieşirii din guvern şi undă verde propagandei care ar putea crea condiţiile pentru o nouă baie de sânge.În această afacere dramatică este implicată toată lumea: Libanul, Siria (care iniţial a fost desemnată drept mintea organizatoare a masacrului), Iranul, care sprijină Hezbollah, Arabia Saudită (Damascul şi Ryadul s-au aliat pentru a atenua tensiunea), Israelul, care supraveghează graniţa de nord şi toate ţările din regiune care se tem de un efect de domino. Desigur şi SUA, evident Franţa care se consideră "naşa" Libanului şi chiar Italia, care are un contingent militar în sudul Libanului sub steagul ONU, dar mai ales pentru că presedintele Tribunalului internaţional care investighează masacrul este un italian, Antonio Cassese. Un judecător renumit care are o sarcină descurajatoare: de decizie depinde ceea ce se va întâmpla în Liban.Anunţarea numelor acuzaţilor era prevăzută înainte de Crăciun, dar acum nu se mai poate aştepta. "Cine se face vinovat este corect să plătească", a spus Amr Moussa, secretarul general al Ligii Arabe.Există riscul real al unui conflict sângeros, deoarece Hezbollah este foarte puternic în Liban şi nu intenţionează să dea înapoi de la poziţiile sale intransigente. Mizează pe sprijinul celuilalt mare partid şiit Amal (şiiţii reprezintă astăzi majoritatea relativă a populaţiei), al creştinilor conduşi de generalul Aoun şi al altor foşti lideri militari, cum ar fi liderul druzilor libanezi Jumblatt, care în urmă cu cinci ani s-a aliniat împotriva Siriei şi Hezbollah, dar apoi a fost lăsat singur, iar acum a revenit în chip de fidel al regulii "dacă nu-ţi poţi învinge duşmanul, aliază-te cu el."În prezent are loc o cursă frenetică. După Washington, Saad Hariri a ajuns la Paris pentru a se întâlni cu Sarkozy şi se va duce şi în Turcia, unde îl aşteaptă premierul Erdogan, unul dintre puţinii lideri din regiune care are credibilitatea şi prestigiul necesare pentru a încerca o mediere.Compromisul pe care unii îl caută este de a nu se forma imediat un nou guvern libanez. Fără un executiv care să accepte sau să respingă verdictul instanţei internaţionale, impactul ar fi mai mic. Dar este vorba de scenarii de pură supravieţuire. Beirutul tremură.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Leul AlbNu sunt un specialist in geopolitica , dar, cu un Damasc adus macar cu un pas spre SUA prin trimiterea unui ambasador SUA in Siria, aceasta din urma poate avea un cuvant[mai mic decat Iranul] asupra Hezbollah-ului, ca sa nu mai faca astia pe nebunii si sa intre Itzic sa ii cauteRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00djebelKlaus wrote ...Zilele astea au testat sistemul Arrow 3, care loveste rachetele inamice in zona extra-atmosferica. Ce trece sunt preluate de Arrow 2, dupa care intervine David's Sling Missile System.Si ce trece de David's Sling Missile System, nu mai trece de populatia care face un magistral stop pe piept cu ele.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00KlausIn recentul conflict din Gaza apararea antiaeriana israeliana a doborat 421 din 1.354 rachete trase inspre ei, iar dintre cele care au trecut 58 au lovit zone locuite, restul au cazut pe camp deschis. LINKZilele astea au testat sistemul Arrow 3, care loveste rachetele inamice in zona extra-atmosferica. Ce trece sunt preluate de Arrow 2, dupa care intervine David's Sling Missile System..De remarcat ca imaginile tuturor persoanelor care apar in video sunt blurateRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisAparent Mossad a furat una in barba de la Anonymous.Rau de tot. LINK Anonymous has struck again in its ongoing campaign against Israeli forces, this time by releasing thousands of names, ID numbers, email addresses and geographic data allegedly corresponding to Israeli politicians, IDF officers and even Mossad agents.Dubbed “#OpIsrael” on Twitter, various collectives of the amorphous Anonymous community are targeting official Israeli web domains, evidently causing intermittent disruption to the official website of spy agency Mossad via a self-described “sophisticated DDoS” attack.The data was released by a hacker team going by the name of “The Red Hack,” a Turkish group, while the direct denial-of-service attack targeted at Mossad was attributed to another group operating under the moniker “Sektor 404.”RT has viewed the spreadsheets but has not yet been able to verify the legitimacy of the data, which has quickly garnered thousands of views as the documents spread via social media.Earlier, Anonymous announced a massive cyber-attack on Israel, threatening to erase the Jewish state from the worldwide web. The first ‘OpIsrael’ cyber-attacks were launched by the hacktivist group during Israel’s ‘Pillar of Defense’ operation against Gaza last November.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisMorala e,evident,nu lucrati pt. Mossad.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumNasol pentru Mossad. Dar acolo unde NSA,MI-5,BND si alte agentii se împiedica (totusi) în legi,Mossad-ul are asa un talent sa trateze chestiile astea într-un fel foarte radical. Când or sa înceapa Anonimous-ii sa se trezeasca care explodând pe WC,care sinucigându-se cu un cutit în spate,sa vezi ce scrisori de scuze trimit. Scrise de mâna.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisMda,numai ca aparent anonimii astia au pus accentul pe faptul ca-s turci.Ori s-au dat turci ca sa-i trimita pe evrei la vanatoare de vrajitoare,ori sunt chiar turci,ori turcii cu ochi albastri au pasat,din greseala desigur,o mana de ajutor. Faza asta vine in momentul in care Hussein of za Casa Alba la fortat pe Netanyahu sa-l sune pe Erdogan si sa-si ceara scuze pt. faza de acum cativa ani cu Mavi Marmara.In care soldatii evrei au omorat niste ''nevinovati'' turci ce sarisera cu iataganele pe ei.Cu ce la vrajit Hussein pe Bibi nu ma duce capul,dar Erdogan a acceptat scuzele,iar in rest a facut ceva pe Netanyahu. Acum vine figura asta. Nu cred eu ca Obama va pati ceva cat timp e la Casa Alba.Ar fi tupeul prea mare pana si pt evrei.Dar nu dau nici 2 shekeli pe el si ai lui cand securitatea sa va fi ceva mai relaxata,dupa ce-si termina mandatul.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00BoribumRemarc o chestie : spui evrei în mai multe locuri,când de fapt e vorba de israelieni. Nu toti evreii sunt israelieni (chiar daca pot fi) asa cum nu toti israelienii sunt evrei. Nu e vreo "punere la punct",dar societatea israeliana e si ea foarte divizata în multe privinte,si multi evrei sunt împotriva Israelului (doctrinar vorbind). Vorbind de Mossad,s-a demonstrat experimental ca nu e bine sa te "iei în bete" cu ei. De la arestarea lui Eichmann,trecând prin episodul Munchen si arestarea lui Ocalan,ei bine...astia când au o nemultumire se exprima. Uneori le ia timp si vieti,dar tot ajung la tinta. Si când au vreun "dujman" desemnat,ca e goy sau evreu nu conteazaRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisStiu,dar ''israelian'' e de 2 ori mai lung decat ''evreu''.Am si eu lenea mea.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisAliatii cei mai noi si mai dragi ai Vestului,implicit aliatii nostri in lupta ce o dam pe tot globul cu fortele intunericului si ale represiunii,sunt niste simpatici.Cum sa nu-i iubesti,mama lor de dragalasi?Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Pârvu FlorinO stire de ieri:PREGĂTIRI DE RĂZBOI: Siria a îndreptat rachetele spre IsraelThe Sunday Times scrie că rachetele Tishreen, de tip sol-sol, fabricate în Siria, sunt capabile să transporte un focos cu o greutate de până la 500 kg, pe o rază de peste 200 km, fiind similare cu cele iraniene "Fateh-110", de care armata siriană dispune de asemenea. După cum relatează săptămânalul britanic Sunday Times, preşedintele sirian Bashar al-Assad a dat ordin privind desfăşurarea de rachete Tishreen, de tip sol-sol, care să fie utilizate împotriva Israelului în cazul unui nou atac aerian dinspre statul evreu, transmit duminică mass-media israeliene, printre care şi Radio Israel. Trupele care se ocupă de rachetele siriene au ordin clar privitor la un atac asupra Tel Aviv-ului şi a părţii centrale a Israelului în cazul în care forţele aeriene israeliene vor comite noi bombardamente asupra unor ţinte de pe teritoriul Siriei, scrie publicaţia britanică, citând surse militare şi referindu-se la informaţii provenind de la sateliţi. Dezvăluirea săptămânalului britanic a produs un ecou larg în Israel, unde aceasta este analizată amănunţit. Potrivit unor informaţii neconfirmate oficial, Israelul a lansat un atac cu rachete asupra teritoriului sirian la începutul lunii mai. Siria a declarat că-şi rezervă dreptul la replică, iar preşedintele sirian, Bashar al-Assad, a ameninţat statul evreu cu un război la scară largă. Oficialii israelieni de rang înalt au declarat că statul evreu încearcă să împiedice transferul unor arme avansate către mişcarea fundamentalistă Hezbollah în Libanul vecin. The Sunday Times scrie că rachetele Tishreen, de tip sol-sol, fabricate în Siria, sunt capabile să transporte un focos cu o greutate de până la 500 kg, pe o rază de peste 200 km, fiind similare cu cele iraniene "Fateh-110", de care armata siriană dispune de asemenea. În articolul său, publicaţia britanică citează o declaraţie făcută recent de un oficial israelian pentru The New York Times, în care regimul de la Damasc este avertizat în legătură cu posibilele consecinţe grave ale oricărui pas ostil împotriva Israelului. Din septembrie 2012, la graniţa dintre Siria şi Israel au fost înregistrate mai mult de 20 de tiruri asupra teritoriului israelian. De fiecare dată, Tsahal /armata israeliană/ a invocat 'împuşcături accidentale', însă, dacă rachetele siriene vor viza zonele populate, armata israeliană va reacţiona cu severitate, a avertizat conducerea statului evreu. Complică şi mai mult situaţia livrarea de sisteme de rachete S-300 Siriei de către Rusia. În ciuda eforturilor întreprinse de premierul israelian Benjamin Netanyahu, care s-a deplasat săptămâna aceasta la Soci (coasta rusă a Mării Negre) pentru a-l determina pe preşedintele Vladimir Putin să suspende aceste livrări, se pare că rachete au ajuns deja în Siria, după cum a relatat presa arabă. Oficialii Air Force Israel recunosc că sistemul rusesc ar putea complica operaţiunile sale în spaţiul aerian sirian, dar experţii spun că aviaţia este capabilă să facă faţă sistemului rusesc de apărare aeriană. Pe fondul tensionat al situaţiei din regiune, Rusia a trimis nave de război în Marea Mediterană, lansând un semnal clar SUA şi Israelului cu privire la inadmisibilitatea oricărui atac militar împotriva Siriei, relatează publicaţia The Yeshiva WorldCiteste mai mult pe REALITATEA.NET: LINKFollow us: @realitatea on Twittersi un alt articol ceva mai vechi, de vreo 10 zile:Why the Israel Defense Forces hit Syria—and why they believe that Assad won’t hit backThe Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz looks absolutely exhausted these days. Gantz, who was appointed to his job almost as an afterthought in February 2011, after a particularly poisonous battle within Israel’s military leadership, has never radiated a very lively aura. It may be a matter of character, or age, or just the fact that he had been called back into office after deciding to retire, but the IDF’s commander often seemed to be gliding through his term during the first two years in office. All this has changed: The man, it is rather clear, is not getting much sleep. His aides, well aware of this, try to enhance the boss’s alertness by providing him a constant supply of black coffee. Even the Israeli media had taken note. The result: a rather heated debate over the required rules of courtesy at the chief of staff’s office and whether those rules offend women officers.Menachem Begin once famously maintained that “you do not ask a gentleman where he spent last night,” but Gantz’s chief reason for exhaustion is pretty clear: the deteriorating situation in Syria. While Israeli and American politicians pour clichés over the Iranian nuclear threat, the IDF is now more immediately worried about the dangers from Israel’s northern front—the implications of Syria’s civil war in particular. Publicly, Israel is deliberately keeping a very low profile. Even the last two Israeli air strikes (out of three, altogether) in Syria were initiated without any official response from Jerusalem (and since Israeli military censorship laws apply to Israeli journalists, I should add that these strikes only happened according to international sources).It is reasonable to assume that Israel’s current operations in Syria are not limited to air strikes. Israel’s different intelligence agencies are believed to keep a very watchful eye on our northern neighbor, while various Arab media organizations have constantly claimed that Israel’s elite units frequently operate inside Syria. After Israel bombed the North Korean-made nuclear plant in northeast Syria in September 2007, several Western newspapers reported that Israeli commandos had secretly visited the site beforehand, taking ground samples in order to make sure that the site had indeed been what the intelligence claimed it was. Oooo, Doamne, sa fie adevarat? For decades, Syria had been considered Israel’s fiercest enemy—and also its most feared. Israeli POWs, returning from long periods in Syrian jails, told stories of very brutal methods of torture, a much more aggressive treatment than any experienced from Egyptian jailers. The trauma of the Yom Kippur War in 1973 is still ingrained in Israeli collective memory. For years, the IDF units had prepared themselves for a repeat: Syrian tanks storming through the Golan Heights, threatening to reach the Sea of Galilee; Syrian commandos taking by surprise the IDF’s bases on Mount Hermon. In every war room at the northern command, there used to be a big poster, saying “War Tomorrow.” The IDF’s top brass had genuinely feared this scenario for years, but the concern also served to keep the army on its toes—and allowed the military to expand the defense budget after the relative failure in the war, to establish more divisions and brigades and to keep the reserve units well-trained. Tank crews and infantry units practiced for what was seen as an inevitable war with Syria, while military intelligence teams memorized the names and roles of Syrian division officers—preparing for a full-scale military confrontation that never materialized.In reality, the Syrian army had long been deteriorating, as its tanks and fighter jets gradually rusted. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia refused to honor huge arms deals with Syria, since Damascus was not able to come up with the required cash. Hafez el-Assad’s original goal—to reach strategic parity with Israel—was eventually abandoned by the Syrian regime, and his son and successor, Bashar, came up with a new strategy. Since Syria could not equal Israel on the military front, it would find new ways to circumvent the IDF’s superiority. The Syrians began to concentrate on defensive weapons and methods that would make it extremely difficult for Israel to attack through the border in the Golan Heights—fortifications, anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles—while pointing a massive armory of surface-to-surface missiles and rockets at Israel’s towns and cities. The threat, Assad Junior hoped, would be enough to prevent Israel from seeking a direct military confrontation with Syria. Meanwhile, both Assads continued to support Lebanese (Hezbollah) and Palestinian (Hamas and Islamic Jihad) organizations in their ongoing fight against Israel.Although the new Syrian strategy did not push Israel to surrender the Golan Heights in peace negotiations, it did help to persuade the Israelis to initiate a full withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000 and helped Syria maintain its position among members of the radical anti-Israeli camp in the Arab World. Both sides of the Golan border upheld a rather constructive balance of deterrence: Each side remained careful not to appear to be publically provoking the other, and the Syrian border remained one of Israel’s calmest fronts for decades. Every few years, when Israel suspected that the Syrians went too far in supporting Palestinian terrorism, it sent a clear message—by sending fighter jets to fly very low over the presidential palace or by attacking a training camp near Damascus.And when in 2007 Bashar Assad surprised the world by actually pursuing a nuclear project, the Israelis—according to American and European journalists—reacted by striking and destroying that site from the air. Israel never publicly claimed responsibility for the attack, a tactic that presumably helped Assad ignore it and kept the border calm for the next few years. The shadow war between the two countries has been quite frustrating for Israeli newsmen, who had read in George W. Bush’s and Condoleezza Rice’s memoirs very specific descriptions of this affair, but still cannot—to this day—contribute anything to the discussion.Yet the larger strategic assumptions that underlay the balance of power on Israel’s borders was altered drastically by that turmoil that some experts still insist on optimistically describing as the Arab Spring. Suddenly, as Israeli scholar Asher Susser had put it so accurately, Israel stopped being afraid of Arab strength and began to be worried about Arab weakness. In Syria, what had started as a local popular revolt in the southern city of Dara’a grew pretty quickly into a terrible civil war, the worst conflict to hit an Arab country since the outcome of the American invasion of Iraq in 2003.From the Israeli perspective, Syria became a huge problem once the Assad regime began to experience difficulties in controlling the distant provinces—specifically the provinces near the Israeli border. Once the border area became an enclave for extremist, al-Qaida-affiliated groups, Israelis faced a new threat: A failed-state, or a non-state, along the border was a much harder foe to handle than a deterred police state, no matter how brutally its dictator treated his subjects. Whom do you deter when there is no longer an identifiable actor on the other side of the border?Very quietly, and unofficially, Israeli leaders wish success to both sides. They pay lip service to condemning the regime’s horrors and express their sympathy for the plight of the Syrian people under Assad but do not go out of their way to help the opposition. Israel assumes that if indeed the opposition wins, it would quickly be dominated by jihadist groups, which will soon set their weapons against the Jewish settlements in the Golan Heights. On the other hand, if the fighting continues, so will the deterioration of the Assad forces’ military capabilities. No army would be able to initiate a war against a neighboring country after more than two years of a self-destructive murderous battle against its own people—producing what is almost a win-win situation for Israel.Yet Israel has its red lines, just like everybody else these days. President Barack Obama defined, rather vaguely, the American red line: The United States would intervene if it has proof that the Assad regime had used chemical weapons. Israel’s red line is very different. It will act, as Israeli leaders have constantly threatened, if important weapons systems are either transferred deliberately from Syria to Hezbollah or fall into the hands of extremist jihadist groups on the rebels’ side. Some Israelis have described the effect of these weapons as “tie-breakers” in Lebanon. This is clearly false, since there is no “tie” between Israel and Hezbollah. But Israel is explicitly nervous about the transfer of chemical weapons, of advanced anti-aircraft systems (such as the Russian-made SA-17 missiles, bombed in January near Damascus, presumably on their way to Lebanon), of coast-to-sea missiles (like the Russian-made Yahont), and of accurate surface to-surface missiles (such as the Iranian-made Fateh-110, bombed twice in the beginning of May).The internal chaos in Syria probably helps the Israelis to collect further data on the military situation there, without being noticed. On the other hand, one would assume that the Syrian army’s withdrawal from many parts of the country and the fact it had to deploy its units under pressure have made following them a much more complicated mission. Evidently, the decision to strike three times means that Israel had enough information about the weapon shipments to strike.But there is probably something else at work here: Generals—and air force and intelligence specifically—tend to emphasize the need for taking immediate advantage of tactical opportunities. So far, Syria has not retaliated for the attacks. However, on Tuesday, May 7, President Assad threatened Israel with “resistance at the Golan border,” and a government newspaper announced that “next time will be different.” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would certainly think hard before he approves another air strike, even if the IDF’s brass claims that it is absolutely necessary.Why has Assad refrained from military action until now? Without admitting any responsibility for the strikes, a senior Israeli defense official explained to me that the government believes the Syrian regime does not have enough space for maneuvering. “If they do act, they will involve us directly in their civil war—a result both of us would like to avoid.” This would mean the destruction of the Syrian air force, Assad’s most effective weapon against the rebels. “I know Assad says he is going to react severely next time, but how many times have you said this to your kids and ended up doing nothing?” remarked the official.But Assad is not the only actor on his side: Israel should also consider the possibility of either an Iranian or Lebanese response. Hezbollah is deeply involved in the civil war in Syria, and it is assumed that the Shiite organization has sent more than 2,000 of its fighters to help Assad’s loyalists. Iranian Revolutionary Guard units are also present in Syria. (The commander of their “El-Quds” force in Lebanon was mysteriously killed on his way to Syria two months ago.) Israel has used this to strengthen its case against Teheran—blaming the Iranians for spreading unrest across the region. Wouldn’t the Iranians and Hezbollah eventually blame Israel—however falsely—for their mounting casualties in Syria? The Israelis believe that Syria’s allies are too busy helping Assad fight for his survival and wouldn’t spend valuable time on minor friction with the IDF. “Until now, our presumed involvement had been minimal,” one military source said. “The Iranians are otherwise occupied.”More and more, the civil war in Syria is seen in a broader, regional context, and the American hesitance over the right course of action is looked upon in Jerusalem as a disturbing precedent regarding the country’s long-term strategic challenge, the Iranian nuclear project. Will Iran and Hezbollah decide to retaliate for the latest strikes, defending Syrian honor? Israeli intelligence officials assume the chances are slim. But we should remember that they have discovered in the past that some of their assumptions were much too optimistic for this region.LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MeseMihais wrote ... Aliatii cei mai noi si mai dragi ai Vestului,implicit aliatii nostri in lupta ce o dam pe tot globul cu fortele intunericului si ale represiunii,sunt niste simpatici.Cum sa nu-i iubesti,mama lor de dragalasi?Nasoale filmele astea. Te fac la psihic.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00justmeApropo de Siria, iata o "chestie" care ar putea fi interesanta NATO nu va participa la o operaţiune militară în SiriaPresupusa folosire a armelor chimice de către regimul sirian cere un răspuns din partea comunităţii internaţionale, dar o intervenţie directă a NATO este exclusă, a declarat vineri secretarul general al Alianţei Nord-Atlantice, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, pentru presa daneză. "Eu nu văd care ar fi rolul NATO într-o reacţie internaţională împotriva regimului" sirian, a declarat Rasmussen pentru presa daneză, informează ediţia electronică a cotidianului Politiken.El a repetat că presupusa folosire a armelor chimice reprezintă "un act terifiant şi oribil. Atacurile chimice constituie o încălcare flagrantă a normelor internaţionale, o crimă care nu poate fi ignorată".Acest lucru "cere un răspuns internaţional, pentru ca aşa ceva să nu se mai întâmple", a adăugat Rasmussen.Secretarul general al NATO a insistat anterior asupra necesităţii de a găsi o soluţie politică pentru conflictul sirian.Experţi ONU au vizitat locurile producerii atacului de la 21 august, în apropiere de Damasc.Potrivit opoziţiei siriene, peste 1.300 de persoane au murit la Mouadamiyat Al-Sham şi în Ghouta de Est, două zone controlate de rebeli situate la vest şi la est de capitala Siriei.Aproximativ 355 de pacienţi "care prezintă simptome neurotoxice" au murit în Siria, potrivit Médecins sans frontières.Rasmussen s-a arătat convins că responsabilitatea aparţine regimului sirian."Nu am nicio îndoială că regimul a procedat la un atac chimic", a spus el."Puţine lucruri sugerează că opoziţia este în măsură să efectueze un asemenea atac", a conchis Rasmussen.LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Pârvu FlorinUn punct de vedere interesant, dar nu uitați că aparţine unei oficine israeliene: The nerve-gas attack that left an estimated 1,000 or more dead civilians foaming at the mouth last month in Damascus constitutes a national security risk that the United States cannot afford to ignore, President Barack Obama argued in his televised remarks on Saturday, because it “risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.” A more precise description of the attack in Damascus was that it made a mockery of Obama’s “red line” against the use of chemical weapons—a line that Obama appears to have laid down precisely because he believed that it would never be crossed, thus providing America with a bullet-proof excuse for staying out of Syria’s bloody civil war.So, who in their right mind would aim to force Obama into a conflict he obviously wants to avoid? Syria has little military or political interest in being bombed by the United States—especially now that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is clearly winning the war for primacy in Syria. In the context of the regime’s recent military gains, a chemical weapons attack on a civilian neighborhood in the middle of Damascus served no strategic purpose even remotely commensurate with the risk it entailed. The same goes for Syria’s regional allies: Hezbollah has little interest in their Syrian ally appearing to be even more of a monster, and Iran’s chief interest would appear to lie in encouraging the rest of the world to forget about WMD threats until they actually acquire a nuclear bomb.Who actually benefited from breaching Obama’s “red line”? A compelling answer can be found in the nature of the attack itself. A Sarin gas attack like the one in Damascus requires days of preparation so that the chemical agents can be mixed and loaded into specialized delivery systems by trained handlers and troops in the region can be issued gas masks and other protective clothing. Orders must travel through a defined chain of command—allowing them to be intercepted, as they apparently were by Israeli intelligence, which put them in American hands before the attack was even launched. In other words, a nerve-gas attack is not the kind of atrocity that a local commander can order up on a whim to please his goons or terrify the locals into obedience. Except in the most extreme instances of Col. Kurtz-like madness or institutional disintegration, orders to use such weapons necessarily come from the top.Clearly, suggesting that anyone aside from Assad gave the final order to launch a massive chemical weapons attack in the center of his own capital is tantamount to suggesting that Assad is no longer in charge of his regime—a suggestion for which there is no evidence. But the chain of military command inside Syria doesn’t end with the country’s president. The idea that Assad gave the order to carry out such a massive and politically dangerous attack without the approval of his Russian and Iranian advisers is also absurd—given the regime’s near-total reliance on Russian and Iranian strategic planning, supplies, fighters, and diplomatic backing for its week-to-week survival. Ditto for the idea that Russian or Iranian officers inside Syria gave their approval for such an attack without the blessing of the men at the top of their own chains of command: Ali Khamenei in Iran, and Vladimir Putin in Russia.So, who—Khamenei or Putin—gave the OK? A reading of public statements by Iranian leaders suggests that they were at the least discomfited by the Syrian government’s actions, if not blind-sided by them. Both current Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and former Iranian President Rafsanjani condemned the attack, with Rafsanjani openly naming the Syrian government as the perpetrator. Rouhani, for his part, called on “the international community to use all its might to prevent the use of these weapons anywhere in the world, especially in Syria”—which hardly seem like the words of a man whose immediate boss just OKed the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Which leaves the more influential and powerful authority figure in the room by nearly every conceivable measure, including disposable wealth, diplomatic throw-weight, and advanced weapons systems: Vladimir Putin.The most illuminating way of understanding why Putin would greenlight a nerve-gas attack that would cross America’s “red lines” in Syria is therefore to ask how the Russian president understands U.S. policy toward the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction—a policy whose real focus is not Syria but Iran.***Among students of the rougher techniques used by fascists, communists, and other old-fashioned political actors whose names rarely appear on ballots in contemporary Western democracies, the nerve-gas attack in Damascus is what’s known as a provocation. In the aesthetics of power that Putin learned from his instructors in the KGB, and that they learned from both their Leninist teachers and the Nazi enemy in WWII, a good provocation is a thing of beauty—a sinister and mind-bending event designed to elicit a response that will serve as a pretext for a predetermined course of action directed toward a larger strategic goal.One of the classic aims of provocation as a technique is to alter the context in which future action takes place; the aggressor looks like he is defending himself, while the injured party looks like the aggressor. One major aim of this reversal is to disorient and demoralize the victim as well as anyone who is watching, a situation that often leads to paralysis, which further augments the aggressor’s tactical advantage. Some classic examples of provocation include the burning of the Reichstag, which was provoked by the Gestapo and led to Hitler’s formal seizure of power in Germany, or attacks on ethnic Germans in Czechoslovakia and Poland that were staged or provoked by Nazi agents and then used as pretexts for the Nazi invasions of those countries. A more recent example of the technique can arguably be found in the 1999 bombings of apartment buildings in Moscow by Chechen terrorists—attacks that may have been sanctioned by the FSB for the purpose of bringing Putin to power.And while Hezbollah is silent and the Iranians condemn their ally’s actions, Putin appears to be enjoying himself at his victim’s expense. Calling claims of a Syrian nerve-gas strike “utter nonsense,” Putin told the Ria Novosti news agency last week that he had not seen even the slightest proof that the Syrian government was behind any use of chemical weapons, ever—or that chemical weapons had been used at all. “If they say that the governmental forces used weapons of mass destruction … and that they have proof of it, let them present it to the U.N. inspectors and the Security Council,” Putin opined, adding, “Claims that the proof exists but is classified and cannot be presented to anybody are below criticism.” Putin also seemed to delight in personally tweaking Obama—addressing him not as President of the United States but as a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and urging him to embrace nonviolence.If what happened in Damascus was a provocation, authored by Putin and intended to display American weakness to the world—the next question then becomes, why? Or, to put a finer point on things, what purpose, apart from the obvious pleasure of making Obama look like a sissy, was worth the risk of being held responsible—even partially responsible—for killing more than 1,000 people with weapons whose names are bywords for horror and whose use is a heinous crime under international law.A worthy prize is not hard to find. While Obama was making his calculations about staying out of Syria—calculations that appear in retrospect to have been both reasonable and false—Putin was making his own calculations about the power vacuum that Obama had left behind in the Middle East. His first conclusion from studying that vacuum appears to have been that Obama wasn’t serious about stopping Iran from getting a nuclear bomb—since that would mean involvement in another shooting war in the region. His second conclusion was that the best way to make that conclusion obvious was by crossing Obama’s “red line” in Syria—in response to which the U.S. president would probably do nothing, or next to nothing. What made the “red line” a perfect target for a provocation was that the line was never serious; it was a fig-leaf for excusing American inaction in a bloody civil war while keeping alive the president’s stated commitment to keep Iran from getting a nuclear bomb.It is also worth noting that the nerve-gas attack in Syria is simply the latest and biggest in a series of incidents in which Putin has chosen to publicly confront the United States and stick his finger in Obama’s eye. First, Putin chose to give NSA leaker Edward Snowden refuge in Moscow’s airport and then in Moscow itself—a decision that led Obama to cancel his planned summit meeting with the Russian president, which presumably was a consequence that Putin both predicted and welcomed. Second, Putin decided to criminalize homosexuality at the Sochi Olympics—a thumb in the eye to an American government that prided itself on its acceptance of gay marriage. The U.S. press treated each of these incidents as indications that Putin is a difficult, ornery person—when in retrospect, they appear to be part of an ongoing global campaign to put Moscow on one side and Washington on the other. Applying the wedge tactics in the global arena that were so successful in Putin’s use of the Pussy Riot incident at home was an interesting novelty, it seemed, but nothing more. What was missing was any sense of why Putin would suddenly find it to Russia’s advantage to stoke conflict with Washington.Evidence for why Putin might have gambled on America backing down is again easy to find. Obama made it plain that his only real interest in the Middle East was to get American troops out of the region as fast as possible. His famous Cairo speech, which so excited global commentators, pro and con, was a rhetorical signal that America was taking a new direction after eight years of war. The direction Obama clearly favored was “out”—out of Iraq, out of Afghanistan, out of the business of backing Hosni Mubarak and other regional dictators, out of attempts to overthrow or destabilize the regime in Iran, out of any real effort to create a Palestinian state or force Israel to leave the West Bank.For Washington policymakers on both sides of the aisle, Obama’s new direction for Mideast policy made plenty of sense. The American economy was weakened by a decade of wars, the American people were tired, and the Pentagon was broke. Attempts at using limited force in Libya had created a mess that made even reasonable people long for the days of Muammar al-Qaddafi. Egypt, where Obama hoped for an accommodation with the Muslim Brotherhood, slid into economic chaos and hopeless misrule. On the plus side, what was left of al-Qaida seemed more or less under control—and there was also the surprising news that, thanks to improved technology for extracting oil from shale deposits, America was on track to become the world’s largest oil producer by 2017. So, why bother with the Middle East?The president’s Syria policy was therefore an entirely coherent example of his larger approach to the region: Let Assad’s forces and the Sunni jihadists stomp on each other’s corpses and then YouTube it, while America provided airplane meals to a limited number of people who professed their belief in some form of democratic, nonsectarian government. The appointment of Samantha Power as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations was icing on the policy cake, ensuring that the Pulitzer Prize-winner would be too busy explaining Syria policy to her fellow delegates and Ivy League grads to write a book denouncing Obama as an accomplice to genocide. It was perfect set-up, until Putin ruined it all with a nasty poison gas attack on Obama’s face-saving “red line.”The prize Putin is seeking for obliterating the American “red line” is not victory in Syria—since his client Assad is clearly winning anyway. The point of the attack is to publically expose Obama’s deep ambivalence about the use of force to stop Iran. If Obama’s red line against the use of chemical weapons in Syria can fall so easily, after the public deaths of more than 1,000 innocent people, including hundreds of children who died foaming at the mouth, how many cruise missiles might Iran’s putative acquisition of nuclear weapons capacity cost? Two hundred? One hundred? Zero? The answer now is plain: However many missiles they might fire, America has no stomach for fighting a war in Syria, let alone in Iran.***Putin needs to make America look weak because Russia is weak. The major source of Russian weakness is Vladimir Putin—or rather, the system that Putin has imposed on Russia so that he can continue in his dual capacity as the country’s elected leader and also its richest man. When he decided to run for president again in 2012, Putin was faced with a fateful choice: He could work to make Russia an attractive destination for foreign capital by strengthening the rule of law and loosening the grip of the oligarchs, or he could choose to strengthen his own rule, according to the methods that were most familiar to him. Putin’s decision to use fraudulent means to win the presidential election, and then to clamp down hard on subsequent criticism, closing down newspapers and throwing critics in jail, made perfect sense to a man bred in an authoritarian state. It also ensured that the Russian economy would continue to be run through by Putin and the oligarchs—the backbone of his political support—in ways that were unlikely to encourage rational foreign investment. The decay of the Russian economy under Putin means that foreign policy is not a moral exercise—rather, it is the only means by which Russia’s current economic leverage can be sustained.By showing that Obama’s America is unable and unwilling to keep its promises, Putin has widened the leadership void in the Middle East—as a prelude to filling it himself. By helping to clear Iran’s path to a bomb, Putin positions himself as Iran’s most powerful ally—while paradoxically gaining greater leverage with Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States, who would much rather negotiate with Russia than with Iran, their sworn enemy. While the Americans were heading out of the Middle East, and the Chinese were too busy with their own internal debates about the future of their economy and society, Putin saw that something valuable had been abandoned on the world stage, and he took it. For the price of 1,000 dead civilians in Damascus, he has gained great power status in the oil-rich Middle East. Iran, for its part, gets the bomb, which isn’t great news for anyone, but was probably going to happen anyway.The first lesson here for American policymakers is that Putin may or may not be evil, but he is obviously much smarter than they are—and he knows it. Another lesson worth learning is that American belief in promoting ostensibly universal aims like promoting democracy or halting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction through the limited and well-meaning use of military force is only sensible in a world of people who share American values and preferences.Since no such world exists, at least right now, and probably ever, Americans might be better off crediting the notion that while we are thinking our thoughts, other people are thinking their own thoughts, which are shaped by very different experiences and aesthetics—and that are likely to shape a world that we no longer control, in part because we have decided that telling people in faraway places what to do is the ultimate sin. In that belief, as in many others, Obama—and not his critics on the left and on the right—accurately reflects the will of the American people, who have experienced the endless wars of the last 50 years as a pointless waste of lives and treasure whose only clear outcomes appear to be piles of corpses abroad and the diminishment of basic liberties at home.Only time will tell whose evil is worse—Putin’s or Obama’s. While Putin delights in using the old-school KGB playbook to consolidate his one-man rule, and to expose the empty moral posturing of the West, Obama believes that he can talk his way into a workable accommodation between his own sense of morality and global reality. But the lesson of Obama’s fig leaf is that it is better to be honest about what we are doing in the world and why. If Putin baited a trap for the United States in Damascus, it was Obama who walked right into it. If Obama had stood up and declared that the United States had no vital interest in Syria but would stop Iran from getting nukes—and would prosecute the authors of the nerve-gas attack at The Hague—then Putin would have been trapped. The same would have been true if Obama had said nothing and blown up two or three of Assad’s palaces. But he did neither. Sometimes, well-meaning lies and political spin can be just as deadly, in the end, as nerve gas.LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00djebelMarketing, just marketing...Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00alexiusUn batalion mecanizat norvegian poate deveni spaima militantilor ISIS din Irak? "Un batalion din Norvegia atât de dur, încât şi americanilor le e frică de el""Un veteran american care a luptat alături de membri brigăzii Telemark ştie exact cât de înfricoşători pot fi aceştia". „Aceşti soldaţi norvegieni, bine antrenaţi şi disciplinaţi, vor reuşi să distrugă orice soldat al Statului Islamic pe care îl întâlnesc. Sunt un grup de războinici foarte agresiv. Au genul acela de atitudine prin care arată că orice le iese în cale vor distruge“, adaugă Stanley.Click pe linkul de jos:LINKRe: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00MihaisHihi,mi-ai amintit de clipul asta.Faza e asa.E de vreo cativa ani.Dupa ce a aparut,''opinia publica'' norvegiana s-a sesizat.Domne,ca cum se pot spune asa orori.Ca talibanu e si el om,nu poate fi vanat.In plus,se incurajeaza militarismul si Doamne fere sa ajunga asa sangerosi ucigasi pe strazile lor. In fine,toata mizeria corecta politica,cu rezultatul previzibil ca pe maiorul care tine discursul l-au zburat. O chestie asemanatoare a fost cu cercetasii-lunetisti de la Marines.S-au pozat aia cu un steag cu initiale SS,de la scout-sniper.Alta drama,crize,declaratii,promisiuni de combatere a fascismului,anti-semitismului etc... p.s Allah Akbar.Rog ca in cazul in care sunt cautat de organe pt. propaganda extremista,sa fie o domnisoara intre 25-30 ani,cu aspect fizic placut.Fiind de la organe,se presupune ca e desteapta.Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00Panzerjagger92Si au de gand sa-si trimita norvegienii acel presupus cel mai bun batalion al lor in macelul acela haotic din Orient? Toata lauda acea pare mai mult puf si praf in ochi sincer. Am putea spune ca anumite unitati sunt bine echipate, bine antrenate si bine pregatite dar eficienta lor va fi dovedita numai prin baptizmul focului.Si sunt sigur ca mojicii de ISIS sa rahatesc moale pe ei, i-au amenintat pe yankei si rusnaci dar ii i-a mama naibii daca s-ar vikingii pe ei!Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00alexiusEvident, stirea este că vreo 50 de băieți d-ăștia se vor duce în Irak, (Cea mai rămas controlat de guvernul american) și îi vor instrui pe militarii irakieni (câți or mai fi) dar șie kurzi : că arma nu este numai să ameninți femeile pe stradă, că e bine să țintești și inamicul, nu să tragi în sus ca la nunți; că nu e bine și frumos să abandonezi frumsețe de Abrams (cadou de la yankei) fără să fi tras vreo salvă etc, etc. Dar știrea trebuia ambalată cumva de redactorul acela gen: "Cei mai sălbatici vikingi îi vor jupui de vii pe teroriștii ISIS"Re: Razboi in Orientul Mijlociu
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2024-03-29T05:07:20+02:00djebelNu trimit tot batalionul, doar 50 de oameni. Am citit astazi articolul si m-am amuzat putin. Ati citit comentariile? E pomenita Legiunea Straina de cateva ori. Acelasi motto ca pe vremea asediului Sevastopolului: "Trimiteti Legiunea sa dea un exemplu celorlalti".