Da despre RG 1 era vorba,eram cu gandul la RG 2 art 56 care nu se respecta.De ce or mai exista RG-urile daca nu se aplica nu stiu. pe net am gasit ordinul 39/2016 dar nu ma pricep sa caut in detalii.
Intrati si voi mai des aici si mai cititi si voi si alte topicuri din forumul asta.
Domnul Klaus a raspuns deja anticipat la intrebarea ta aici LINK
Klaus wrote ...
Inteleg sa abrogi ceva (desi nu este tocmai OK sa faci asta unui regulament aprobat in 2008, si modificat in 2012, parca este prea repede), dar nu pui nimic in loc? Se poate si fara RG-uri? Se pare ca da.
Ordinul nr. 39/2016 pentru abrogarea Ordinului ministrului apărării nr. M.92/2008 pentru aprobarea R.G.-1, Regulamentul de ordine interioară în unitate
în temeiul prevederilor art. 33 alin. (1) din Legea nr. 346/2006 privind organizarea şi funcţionarea Ministerului Apărării Naţionale, cu modificările şi completările ulterioare, ministrul apărării naţionale emite prezentul ordin.
Art. 1. Se abrogă Ordinul ministrului apărării nr. M.92/2008 pentru aprobarea R.G.-1, Regulamentul de ordine interioară în unitate, cu modificările şi completările ulterioare, publicat în extras în Monitorul Oficial al României, Partea I, nr. 815 din 5 decembrie 2012.
Art. 2. Prezentul ordin se publică în Monitorul Oficial al României, Partea I, şi intră în vigoare la data de 15 aprilie 2016.
Ministrul apărării naţionale, Mihnea Ioan Motoc
Bucureşti, 15 martie 2016.
Mese wrote ...
Da a aparut noul Rg-1 acu cam 1 luna. Si era logic ca cel vechi sa fie abrogat.
Klaus wrote ...
@Mese - ca si tehnica legislativa cand inlocuiesti ceva vechi cu ceva nou, se scrie asta explicit in cel nou. Mi se pare aiurea sa dai un ordin separat de abrogare a celui vechi.
Ca exemplu, in Ordinul nr. M.30/2009 pentru aprobarea Regulamentului onorurilor si ceremoniilor militareLINK la art. 2 scrie: La data intrarii în vigoare a prezentului ordin se abroga "R.G.-4, Regulamentul onorurilor si ceremoniilor militare", aprobat prin Ordinul ministrului apararii nationale nr. M.119/2000, cu modificarile si completarile ulterioare.
In Ordinul nr. M.87/2008 pentru aprobarea „R.G.-2, Regulamentul serviciului interior” la art. 3 scrie La data intrării în vigoare a prezentului ordin se abrogă „R.G.-2, Regulamentul serviciului interior”, ediţia 2002, aprobat prin Ordinul ministrului apărării naţionale nr. M.1/2002, cu modificările şi completările ulterioare.
Idem si la fel si Ordinul nr. M.92/2008 pentru aprobarea R.G.-1, Regulamentul de ordine interioară în unitate, la art. 2, alin. (2) prevede ca La data intrării în vigoare a prezentului ordin se abrogă „R.G.-1, Regulamentul de ordine interioară în unitate”, aprobat prin Ordinul ministrului apărării naţionale nr. M.42/2000, cu modificările şi completările ulterioare.
Si exemplele pot continua.
Cat despre aplicarea lor, a RG-urilor, la militarii din MAI, cu acelasi Statut, al cadrelor militare, este o enigma pentru mine. Se aplica numai cand este de f...t :"> Nu zic ca in vremuri apuse RG-urile erau semnate si de MAI (MI).
Cate autospeciale (si ce autospeciale!) vin in SUA pentru un incendiu minor. O adevarata defilare... Ma intreb ce o fi facut fiecare, fiind prea multe (zic eu).
Semne ale dezintegrarii sistemului, si mi se pare important de subliniat ca articolul de mai jos a aparut intr-un ziar conservator. Cred ca multe dintre cele de acolo sunt extrem de valabile si aici, cu deosebirea ca aici inca nu se vorbeste despre aceste probleme.
Traducerea pasajelor pe care le-am marcat cu rosu:
In ultimele cateva saptamani am fost inundata de emailuri si scrisori de la paramedici disperati.
Numarul solicitarilor a crescut dramatic si ambulantele sunt trimise volens-nolens la tot felul de solicitari futile.
Dispecerii sunt nepregatiti si nu isi asuma nici un risc, asadar trimit ambulante pentru cele mai marunte indispozitii ale pacientilor.
Vina conducatorilor London Ambulance Service e felul in care aleg sa raspunda acestor probleme. Ei au datoria sa isi protejeze paramedicii epuizati, gandind intens cum sa isi imbunatateasca sistemul. In realitate, intr-o incercare disperata de a-si mentine imaginea si de a-si atinge obiectivele, isi preseaza personalul pana cand acesta cedeaza.
Dar daca emailurile si scrisorile pe care le-am primit sunt adevarate, o cultura a hartuirii, fricii si paranoiei a fost indusa in sistem. Personalul lucreaza pana dincolo de limita normala a rezistentei.
Daca vei incepe sa cauti prin junalele locale, vei vedea ca hartuirea personalului care spune lucrurilor pe nume a devenit raspunsul standard al conducatorilor serviciilor de ambulanta pe tot cuprinsul tarii, acesta fiind rezultatul promovarii persoanelor nepotrivite de catre un sistem haotic. Intocmai ca un meserias prost care isi blameaza unealta pentru un lucru prost facut, asa si conducatorii isi blameaza subalternii, fiind incapabili sa gaseasca o alta justificare a esecului.
Paramedicii sufera adesea de sindrom de stres post-traumatic, mult mai des decat politistii si pompierii, dar ei muncesc mai mult si se pensioneaza mai tarziu decat acestia din urma, si nu au nici cea mai mica marja de eroare. In graba de a trata pacientii, sunt sanctionati daca lasa fie si o singura casuta nebifata in formulare. "Fa o greseala in formulare si iti poti lua adio de la slujba." Am auzit asta de o multime de ori, si mi s-a relatat despre angajati care au fost sanctionati doar pentru faptul ca au pus la indoiala deciziile conducatorilor sau au avut o iesire nervoasa. Un fost paramedic a declarat ziarului Nottingham Post: "Cineva s-ar putea deplasa la un copil care moare, lucru extrem de dureros, si imediat dupa asta, ar putea urma altul. Oricine ar fi distrus dupa o astfel de situatie, dar asta e nerelevant, cand obiectivele trebuies indeplinite cu orice pret." Am baut o cafea cu un fost lucrator in London Ambulance Service care sustinea ca in posesia conducerii exista o lista neoficiala cu paramedici cu risc de suicid. In timp ce vorbea, ochii i se roteau anxios de la stanga la dreapta, ca si cum cineva din conducere l-ar fi putut asculta. Da, e paranoia, dar e departe de a fi ceva neobisnuit. Pur si simplu sunt ingroziti de conducatori.
Nu indraznesc sa spuna adevarul.
Asadar, daca vor sa-si pastreze paramedicii, si e nevoie urgent sa faca asta, prima recomandare e ca domnii ....... sa inceapa sa ii asculte.
A doua recomandare e revizuirea stilului de conducere.
Impreuna, ar trebui sa ceara ministrului sanatatii revederea metodologiei de raspuns la apeluri de urgenta medicala, asigurandu-se ca ambulantele raspund doar urgentelor adevarate, si, mai presus de orice, sa trateze paramedicii cu respectul pe care il merita.
Last month I wrote about the weird exodus of paramedics from London’s ambulance service. Flies would blanch at the rate they’re dropping, and so I was curious — and also anxious. Everyone who lives in this heaving city relies upon 999, and 999 relies upon paramedics.
The official reason, given to me by Mr Jason Killens, the tough-sounding director of operations at the London Ambulance Service (LAS), was that they’re leaving because they’re underpaid. But as I wrote back then, I wasn’t convinced.
It turns out Mr Killens wasn’t quite convinced either, because since we spoke, the LAS have begun an internal inquiry into the matter — and as it happens, inadvertently, so have I. Over the past few weeks I’ve been swamped by emails and letters from desperately unhappy paramedics. I’ve spoken to many of them; and can now present the results of my own inquiry. It might also (sad to say) be of interest to the other NHS ambulance trusts around the country — all nine of them from north to south, because it seems increasingly clear that London’s problems are echoed nationwide.
First you need to understand that London’s 999 service is on the very edge of melting down. The number of calls has risen dramatically and ambulances are sent willy-nilly to all manner of pointless non-emergencies. There are supposed to be systems in place that sort the hypochondriacs from the heart attacks, but for one reason or another they are all inadequate. The operators at 111, for instance, are untrained and risk-averse, so they send ambulances to the slightest sniffle. For a 999 operator, the words ‘chest pain’ or ‘difficulty breathing’ automatically mean an ambulance, though it’s often just a panic attack on the line. The service is so stretched that ambulance crews no longer return to their stations to recover between emergencies, but must circle the city all shift long and often do overtime.
So it’s hard, gruelling work, but this in itself isn’t why paramedics are dropping out, nor is it the fault of the ambulance service. It’s just the familiar bloody crunch of a free service, one to which people feel entitled, colliding with limited funds.
What is the fault of LAS management, though, is how they have chosen to respond. They have a duty of care to their exhausted paramedics; they should be thinking hard about how to improve the system. Instead, in a panicked bid to save face and hit targets, they have taken to cracking the whip over their frontline staff — driving them on until they snap or break down.
Last week I had an email from another whistleblower: ‘Surge Purple called again. Help!’ ‘Surge Purple’ is a perfect example. The ‘Surge Plan’ is what our ambulances follow when there’s an emergency. Surge Amber means a mini-crisis; Surge Red is bad news; Purple means a major incident or a catastrophic situation. A Surge Purple was declared during the 7/7 London bombings, for instance: it’s a serious call.
Surge Purple means the whole front line of the London Ambulance team — 999 call dispatchers, drivers and paramedics — racing flat out, working overtime, getting by on adrenaline in place of sleep. It means staff on holiday or sick are badgered to come in. It should by definition be an almost unheard-of measure, but Surge Purples are being called regularly these days: two in June this year, more in July — and why? Simply because there are far, far too many calls to deal with. Managers fear they won’t hit the government-set targets, so they press the panic button and up the pressure on already run-ragged ambulance crews.
It’s not just cruel; it’s dangerous too. During one Surge Purple, the LAS apparently decided that all ambulances should respond to all calls — even non-emergencies — on ‘blue’, meaning lights on, racing top speed. Under normal circumstances an ambulance will only drive on blue if the patient is critically ill, because it’s risky and stressful, but despite complaints from the crews, the LAS was said to be adamant. So London sounded with sirens. Blind-tired drivers served frantically around town, dodging pedestrians. Why? Not to save lives (it perhaps even endangered them), but just to catch up, to pretend it was all OK for one more desperate day.
Even in these circumstances, if their immediate bosses, the duty officers and area managers of the ambulance stations, supported them, London’s paramedics might not be opting out. But if the emails and letters I’ve received are to be believed, a culture of bullying, fear and paranoia has crept in. Frontline staff are working beyond the point of normal endurance — skeleton crews on week-long Surge Purples — but if they become ill, from lifting heavy patients or from stress, management gets difficult. If you begin to sift through local news stories, you can see this panicked bullying has become the reflex response of management in ambulance services around the country — a product perhaps of the wrong people, over-promoted and at sea in the chaotic system. Just as a bad workman blames his tools, so an incompetent manager blames his staff, and for want of any other answer, simply pushes them ever harder.
Last December the Worcester News reported that a whistle-blowing paramedic with the West Midlands service had claimed staff felt ‘downtrodden and bullied’. In April this year Dr Anthony Marsh, head of the East of England ambulances, edged his head above the parapet to warn that staff were ‘tired, overworked and frustrated’. Just a few weeks ago, a source from South Central Ambulance Service told an Oxfordshire radio station that there had been a huge exodus of staff, because they felt undervalued by their bosses. ‘It’s us versus them between the front-line crews and management.’
Paramedics suffer badly from post-traumatic stress disorder, far more than the police or the fire brigade, but they work harder, retire later, and there is no room these days for mistakes. If, in the general run of handing patients over to A&E, a single box is left unticked, disciplinary proceedings begin. ‘Make a mistake on your paperwork, and you may as well kiss your job goodbye’: I’ve heard this many times. I’ve been told of staff being disciplined for simply questioning management’s decisions, and of nervous breakdowns. A former paramedic with the East Midlands service told the Nottingham Post, ‘Someone will go to a child death, which is awful, and from there they can immediately go to another. Anyone would go to pieces after that job. But that’s made irrelevant if targets need to be hit.’ I had coffee with a former member of the LAS who claimed there was an unofficial paramedic suicide-risk list held by HQ. As he spoke, his eyes flickered anxiously from right to left, as if management might be listening. Paranoid, yes, but far from unusual. To a man, I’ve found they’re terrified of management.
And this is why Jason Killens has so many ‘unknowns’ on his paramedic ‘reasons for leaving’ chart. They don’t dare tell the truth. Management has the power to strike paramedics from the register. They might want to work elsewhere in the health service and they worry about reprisals.
Now, I expect at this point Mr Killens has already planned a cross letter to The Spectator. But these aren’t allegations — this is simply what staff say to someone who they think might care.
The London Ambulance Service top brass claim to be concerned about the crisis in their service, as well they should be. They say they are taking steps to improve the working lives of their ambulance crews and recruit new frontline staff. But my light reading these past few weeks has been the minutes from their monthly board meetings and they’re as puzzling as the emails from the paramedics are disturbing.
Take July. Each board member present had a report in front of them which laid out, in graphs and bullet points, roughly the picture I’ve painted above: ambulances run almost constantly on emergency ‘code red’; use of Surge Purples (which I assume are technically supposed to trigger some sort of inquiry); the haemorrhaging of staff. There has also been a ‘steep rise in the number of complaints received by the Patient Experiences Department’. So why, then, does no one seem to care? Last month’s minutes start with a little talk from a deaf member of the LAS, and the first concern of the service’s chief executive, Ann Radmore, is that not enough is being done to make it easier for people who are hard of hearing to join the service.
She then addresses the ‘staff turnover’ issue, but it’s almost as if she’s never spoken to a paramedic: she suggests that they’re all leaving just because there is such a demand for their skills elsewhere. The board seem united in thinking that the answer is not to improve a London paramedic’s lot, but to ship more in from abroad. A chap called Nick wonders about recruiting from China; someone else mentions that a recruitment drive is to begin in Australia. A chap called Theo de Pencier, who I hope was joking in a black sort of way, suggests that next year’s Rugby World Cup might ‘also attract people to work in London’. De Pencier also worries about the impact of poor air quality in London on staff health. Then they all disperse until next time.
It’s nice that Theo’s concerned about the air quality — next perhaps he’ll suggest letting them eat cake — but it’s terrifying to see how little any of the board seem to understand the problems on their own front line.
So the first recommendation of this Spectator inquiry is that if Mr Killens and Ms Radmore want to keep their paramedics — and they urgently need to — they must begin by listening to them. This of course goes for every chief executive of every ambulance trust across the country. I’ve heard more than once that the much-admired former chief exec Peter Bradley spent an hour and a half in each station every year, chatting and trying to understand. Perhaps Ms Radmore might do the same.
After listening to them, they’ll understand that no amount of recruiting from Australia (where I gather Jason Killens is currently scouting about) is going to help. Staff will come, and then will leave, and the trouble will continue.
My second recommendation is that the management comes clean. Paramedics are the canaries in the coal mine of 999. They’re dropping out because the whole system is poisonous. You can’t operate on Surge Purple for ever. Jeremy Hunt, the Secretary of State for Health, and his team were concerned about the comments from paramedics under my previous article. Mr Hunt was worried enough to promise to look into the issue, so now is the time for all those in charge of these miserable, collapsing ambulance services to stop hoping the problem will just evaporate some day, and take action. They should join together to urge the Health Secretary to reconsider 111; make sure ambulances are reserved for proper emergencies; and, most of all, treat paramedics with the respect they deserve. LINK
azi m-a sunat un nene comisar de la IGPR, Directia Investigatii Criminale, legat de o sesizare facuta de cei de la IGSU pe marginea nu stiu carui document postat la noi pe site.... evident, ca si data trecut in cazul Dudus, se doreste a se afla cine a postat, insa l-am lamurit telefonic pe nea comisaru' ca nu-i pot da aceste date, asa cum nu le-am dat nici data trecuta... sesizarea a fost facuta pe Art. 304 NCP... am cautat intr-o veselie pe forum, insa n-am gasit nimic.... rog trimiteti-mi pe privat link-ul catre postarea in cauza, sa ma luminez inainte de a ma intilni vineri cu dom' comisar, astfel incit sa stiu ce naiba sa discut... multzam anticipat...
O chestie care s-ar plia oarecum pe problema e nota raport de aici LINK
Așadar și prin urmare se pare că cineva e nervos, e extrem de nervos, e nervos cu spume și crăci, și asta e bine pentru mine, căci îmi dă de înțeles că stric niște socoteli și lovesc într-un loc care doare.
De altfel, întreaga atitudine a IGSU și DSU față de ce am postat de-a lungul timpului aici a urmat tiparul clasic al modului în care o autoritate abordează situația în care se fac dezvăluiri despre abuzurile și corupția din interiorul ei: ignorare atât timp cât dezvăluirile nu au o audiență foarte mare, încercare de împrietenire când situația devine deranjantă
Pârvu Florin wrote ...
V-am zis că joi m-a sunat Bobe de la SIPI Dâmbovița să mă roage să ne întâlnim, fiindcă vrea să discutăm ceva?
Nu v-am zis?
Ei, vă zic acum!
intimidare și presiuni dacă încercarea de împrietenire nu funcționează.
De fapt, sentimentul meu e că nu eu sunt miza acestei plângeri penale, ci activii, se incearcă înfricoșarea lor și prevenirea unor eventuale viitoare scurgeri de informații compromiţătoare, precum și descurajarea lor în a-și spune opiniile.
Boribum wrote ...
Pârvu Florin wrote ...
Cred ca va fi extrem de amuzant, mai amuzant decat atunci cand Tudosa LINK a facut plangere penala impotriva mea pentru hartuire LINK
În afara de asta, tot ce ai scris e bun scris si înregistrat si îti spun din experienta proprie ca domnii si doamnele alea care vor fi raspunzatori de amuzamente anchetatoristice chiar stiu sa citeasca,nu sunt dobitoci si înteleg foarte bine.
Exact pe asta mă bazam și eu când spuneam că va fi extrem de amuzant!
Pronosticul de mai sus s-a dovedit a fi corect, cel putin pana in acest moment.
Si apropo, intr-o saptamana-doua, daca traiesc si sunt sanatos, o sa pun pe forum copiile documentelor din dosarul penal intocmit in urma plangerii lui Tudosa, dosar penal care s-a terminat cu NUP in urma cu vreun an, dar eu de-abia acum am putut ajunge la Parchetul de pe langa judecatoria Targoviste, sa cer copii dupa el.
Am auzit pe la colțuri ca în multe județe au început să se facă rapoarte, Brașov, Brăila, Ialomița. La noi au început să ne dea 3 libere pe luna, ceva ceva s-a discutat sus acolo.Orlando a câștigat, celălalt la București la fel, sistemul a început să se clatine.
Salutare tuturor, de schimbarea programului mai stie cineva ceva, sau de noua reorganizare a ISU BIF...sau de ambele ca prin subunitati se aude ca dupa reorganizarea isu bif din vara se va reveni la 24/72
Buna seara. Referitor la consiliile de onoare si de judecata, mai sunt valabile dupa ce ordinul MAI 400 a fost anulat, iar RDM 2013 este in vigoare? O noapte linistita!
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